• tezoatlipoca@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    “I Declare an Immune From Suit! I Declared it!”

    Thats not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.

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      It’s concerning and insane, but at least he’s showing everyone these behavior patterns instead of pretending to be normal in the interest of winning the election.

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        One issue they could grab easily: veteran and active duty mental health. I would like to see some form of mandatory therapy sessions for them after incidents and periodically. Why mandatory? Because people will go and no one can shame anyone for that.

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          That would require them actually caring about veterans and the military, which they don’t. They say they do and hype it all up about supporting the troops and then when it comes down to actually assign any sort of legislation to do so they always turn the other way.

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            And the weird part is that it makes no sense. They have the political capital to make more laws protecting vets. Voters love helping vets. It’s a win-win that neither side takes up. There is a huge opportunity here. And then they complain not enough people are enlisting.

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          That would involve boosting government programs, which they’ve built a whole ideological and propaganda edifice against because that’s money that could go to corporations. Anyone who does something like this leaves himself open to attacks from the right. There really isn’t a lot that Republicans could run on anymore, they’re pretty much locked into their strategy of populism in service of wealthy interests.

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        There is plenty that they could run on, although I agree with you that I personally think it’s nothing. I’m sure they could just distort figures and run on an economic boogeyman to get at least 48% of the general population vote.

        I think the reality is that this doubling-down on culture wars is (hopefully) alienating the folks that swing elections – genuine independents in genuine purple states. That’s a small, very influential demographic. Is destroying leftism really going to resonate with them? I don’t know.

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        DeSantis literally said that if elected president he will “destroy leftism”. Wtf does that even mean dude? How, what policy, what exactly will you do?

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          It means nothing, it’s feelings, like all of this other culture war bullshit.
          However, that doesn’t mean he won’t try, like what we’ve seen with Disney, FL schools, etc. If you consider people who vote/voted for Democrats (a center-right party in the grand-scheme of things), who have won the popular vote in 5/6 most recent presidential elections, as leftists then you are considering the majority of Americans as enemies that need to be ‘destroyed’.
          As you said, what the fuck does he actually intend by that? Does any pro-Desantis chucklefuck think that America could even stand, much less maintain their standard of living by “destroying” over half of the population?

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            He will target LBGT and minorities. Those will be considered “woke” or “leftists”. Once he “destroys” them then the rest will fall in line like it was Nazi Germany.

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            If you consider people who vote/voted for Democrats (a center-right party in the grand-scheme of things), who have won the popular vote in 5/6 most recent presidential elections, as leftists then you are considering the majority of Americans as enemies that need to be ‘destroyed’.

            You just summed up Republican party policy for the last ~14 years at least.

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        I don’t understand why they could not concentrate on providing support for issues that relate to rural voters, like farm subsidies, issues related to national defense, issues related to providing affordable health care, issues related to the opioid crisis that affects rural America, etc. They really just need to look at the nation and see what the problems are and make solving them their platform.

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          They got what has been their platform for the last 50 years. Overturn Roe v Wade, cut taxes, stop any kind of gun control, and ignore the pandemic.

          They got Roe v Wade and now they don’t have the anti-abortion single issue voters that they can rile up. They got their tax cuts under Trump and the economic situation for everyone except the wealthy few has drastically declined, and gun deaths are on the rise to the point where gun deaths are the most common cause of death for kids in America.

          Initially the pandemic hit cities harder because dense populations spread diseases faster. But then it really hit the biggest republican demographics hard and many of their voters permanently aged out of voting.

          Through their policy they have either killed off their own supporters or radicalized people into opposing them. If I were a kid in high school who survived a mass shooting and some tomato faced blowhard with a million listeners was calling me and my family anti-american crisis actors, it would radicalize me. Hell I wasn’t even targeted by the rhetoric and radicalized me further against Republicans.

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          I don’t understand why they could not concentrate on providing support for issues that relate to rural voters… issues related to providing affordable health care

          The last 13 years the Republicans have been railing against the Affordable Healthcare Act (ACA, aka Obamacare). To come out now and say that affordable healthcare is an issue that needs additional resource and effort would destroy their carefully cultivated narrative against the ACA.

          They really just need to look at the nation and see what the problems are and make solving them their platform.

          The problems the Republicans appear to champion are:

          • what clothing people wear
          • how they choose to engage in sex among consenting adults
          • what bathroom a person chooses to relieve themselves in
          • what mates they choose to marry
          • what regulations can be removed to increase corporate profits
          • whitewashing history which would otherwise reflect the reality of the USA’s checkered past
          • legal support for entrenched companies in their industry against alternatives

          Most of this can be viewed easily through the lens of Wilhoit’s law:

          “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

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          The actual rural population is less than 20% of the total US population. The GOP cannot possibly win elections by appealing to the needs and concerns of rural america. They are instead following Nixon’s well worn racist strategy of appealing to the white suburban voters, and in particular to economically insecure white suburban voters.

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            The actual rural population is less than 20% of the total US population. The GOP cannot possibly win elections by appealing to the needs and concerns of rural america.

            Especially appealing to rural voters at the cost of urban and suburban voters which is what the perception would be if the 80% of voters concerns are dismissed to address the 20% of rural voters.

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          They can’t do any of that because it runs counter to their actual platform of giving tax breaks to the super rich while fucking over the poor.

          So the only way to get the poor to support republicans is to engage in culture war bullshit.

          If you look at any of the issues you raised, Republicans have been on the wrong side. They hate affordable healthcare, they want farm subsidies to only apply to the super rich mega farms, they want to punish opioid addicts while letting the Sackler family off scott free, and generally just want policy that will make life harder for everyone but themselves.

          But they do want to hurt the people they’ve told their base to hate, even if those same policies hurt that base too.

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          Because rural voters have spent decades dialed in to talk radio, their pastor, and more recently cable news. They talk each other around in circles, obfuscating the actual issues, and any time a real issue does creep into the discussion, they lay blame at the out group who has historically had no power in their communities.

          You can’t appeal to the best interests of rural voters because rural voters themselves have no idea what to care about until the man on TV tells them how to say it to piss off “liberals.”

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            As a rural pastor I wish they would listen to what I have to say and not what cable tv or radio tells them.

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        Iirc his major policy victory before becoming governor was introducing a bill to make it easier for vets to get dogs? …and not much else.

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    I hope they don’t let him off the hook. He needs to pay for his actions like anybody else. No matter what party or affiliation, if you break the law being a dick, you should get slapped on the dick.

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    I heard DeSantis was sexist, but claiming you are immune from all legal actions brought by women? That’s insane! The broads won’t stand for it!