• KingYoloHD@lemmy.world
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    I just joined .world because it sounded the most logical

    “Oh it says world, that probably means i can see things all over the world”

    I’m not disappointed

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      World here too on the Jerboa app, I’m subscribed to a BUNCH of communities in other instances and can browse and comment on them all with my world profile. Still kinda confused how it all works but I’m liking it so far

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    This will die down eventually: at the moment there are many different independent ideas of how to build federated reddit alternatives that have yet to really be tested for how the underlying systems and moderation tools scale. In due time there’s going to be a standard application or at least standard exchange format between the different services, that just doesn’t happen right now since all methods are really new and now get “suprise load tested”.

    That’s also why you experience outages and Beehaw explicitly asking people not to join: everything went from “fringe techdemo” to “the internet is moving off of reddit” in a matter of less than a week (same thing is true with app support) and everything is at its breaking point: from the underlying technology to new communities appearing in a matter of hours to days (usually with less experienced moderators).

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    Select “all” rather than “local” and you’ll see content from all federated instances.

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    Reading an image, page refreshes, lose image. I wish I could turn off the auto-refresh or reduce the interval.

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    You can follow any lemmy or kbin community from one account on any instance

    Except comms from beehaw if you’re on .world; leave those and join another similar comm if you are.

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            Why instantly back to reddit? There are many more alternatives.

            People these days be like: 1 sign of trouble: give up

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              Because it’s a systematic problem. It’s not something that can be fixed somehow by better tech or something. So at best we will eventually get one central instance of Lemmy… which is essentially a worse version of Reddit with only Communists and Techy people.

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              Because it’s a systematic problem. It’s not something that can be fixed somehow by better tech or something. So at best we will eventually get one central instance of Lemmy… which is essentially a worse version of Reddit with only Communists and Techy people.

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                Beehaw admins literally said that they only defederated because existing mod tools weren’t fine-grained enough to address the issue otherwise. Mastodon already has those tools, and in fact went through a similar temporary defederation issue.

                So, yes, it can definitely be solved by better tech, and already has… just not on lemmy.

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                Oi, I’m moderate af and am only techy to people who don’t know the difference between a laptop and… the larger one!

                I do like a community that values a free, open and decentralised Internet, Reddit used to, but seems to have lost that.

  • Duchess@lemmy.world
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    i was confused for a little while too, created a few accounts and was floundering. the setup will be different for everyone but currently i have a tab open with mastodon and i’m following a few seperate instances there. then i have lemmy.world also open and i have stuff from different lemmy instances and kbin coming in to my feed.

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    1 year ago

    kbin and lemmy federate with each other. You only need one account and you can view posts from any instance*

    • Except for those that choose to defederate, like beehaw. But that’s their choice to make a walled-off community.
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      At first it was

      “You only need one account, it’s like an email, they all federate with each other”

      I was reeeaally excited for the prospect. (I still am btw)

      But now it’s more like

      “your account here can see that instance and that one too – but it’s buggy so sometimes it takes time to sync – anyway you cannot see that one for that one you need a distinct account-- oh and if that instance decide to defederate then you’ll need another account for there too”.

      I’m still into the Fediverse, it’s just we still have things to figure out.

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        The good thing is I think most of these issues are a design issue that can be solved client side rather than fundamental flaws in the architecture.

        For example, if you go to comment on a Beehaw thread and the app just showed some kind of prompt, e.g. “Sign-up to Beehaw or an instance federated with Beehaw to comment on this sublemmy” I think it would feel pretty straightforward.

        All the confusion with how federation works is something a well designed app could explain to users as they explore. Obviously it will just take time for the platform to mature to this stage.

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    I’m just sticking to lemmy.world for now. It doesn’t have all the communities I want yet but it seems more open than the others. I don’t like walled gardens or gated communities. If I wanted a platform with power hungry, elitist moderators creating circle jerk in-groups, I would have stayed on Reddit.

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      You know you can connect to any community on another server regardless of your instance right?

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        Not necessarily. As someone else pointed out in this thread, beehaw is currently set up so that Lemmy.world users can view and comment on posts on beehaw communities, but those comments can only be seen by other lemmy.world users. Individual instances can restrict what users from other instances can do.

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      Relay for me. I really hope that someone ends up implementing some kind of translation layer for the reddit API that would encourage the existing reddit apps to supper Lemmy.

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        That would be a spectacular idea.

        And I’m happy to see another Relay user. They seemed to be left out of the lists even though they’ve got a fantastic app

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          Relay said they are going to try $3/month subscription model.

          I definitely got my money’s worth out of Relay Pro, but I can’t justify the subscription.

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            Users should be getting paid for contributing to reddit, not paying for the privilege. We create the data that reddit gets its revenue from.

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            Relay user here. I love Relay. Dbrady is the best. And I have no problem supporting him at $3 a month, but f* reddit after all this. I’m not giving them a penny.

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              Yeah my problem with the 3 bucks is that 2.50 of it is going straight to reddit’s rent seeking. I hope it works out with dBrady and relay, but it will be without me.

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    I need a damn explain it to me like I’m five for how all this works. My brain can wrapped it up into neighborhoods or space fleets but the in an out communications are the part I’m missing.

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      The Fediverse is like a group of interconnected neighborhoods, each representing a different social platform or community. Just as you might have neighbors on your street who interact and share things over time, these communities can communicate and exchange ideas. These neighborhoods may differ in size or focus, but they all exist within a larger universe - just like planets orbiting around a sun. In this case, think of our star system as something like Friendica (the first step towards the modern fediverse) and Diaspora* (itself originally based on Friendica). And just as there might be traffic or communication issues between planetary systems, there could be friction between distinct Fediverse networks. But ultimately, we’re still talking about a united whole here! Finally, imagine spaceships zipping back and forth through space linking up these distinct points of interest - say hello to the protocols bridging connections between decentralized nodes known as “federation” today. It’s all connected!

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        It’s the defederation I’m still confused. That ship (Beehaw) left the fleet and locked down it’s ship. What are the communication rules?

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    Well beehaw defederated Lemmy.world so you won’t see that stuff. Well they won’t see yours anyways so you won’t get to interact with them.

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      It’s an interesting situation, defederating.

      Defederated instances can see the instance that cut them off and can comment, but they (beehaw in this case) won’t see their comments. However, if they refederate later when better mod tools exist, all the comments will (be able to) flood in, right?

      If so, they’ll need to be able to handle it in some way that enables them to maintain compatibility with their instance ethos.

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    You don’t need multiple accounts, one account can access all different instances, including subscribing to remote communities. You just have to click “All” in the communities or post list to see them, instead of “Local”.

    Except for beehaw.org defederating from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works, and I think some defederated from lemmygrad.ml.

    Also it should be said that edited comments don’t seem to pass across the instances. I think they only sync when the comment has been made.

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      Did beehaw.org defederate from lemmy.world ? I’m on Lemmy world and see posts from beehaw. Is there a way to check who is federated with who like some kind of map?

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        If I’m not mistaken, you can see the posts and can even comment, but only people on lemmy.world will see your comment. People from beehaw and other instances won’t see it. That’s because lemmy.world haven’t defederated from beehaw.

        More info here: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/24341/How-the-beehaw-defederation-affects-us

        You can see which instances are blocked here: https://beehaw.org/instances. It’s in the bottom of the page of every instance home page or just add ‘/instance’ after the instance’s address.

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    I came up with what I think is a pretty good explanation when trying to explain the beehaw fiasco to a friend last night, here it is copy pastad

    Think of it like cell service

    You have TMobile, I have Google fi

    But we can still talk because they both use 4g

    But then Google fi blocked TMobile so I can’t talk to you anymore

    And if I want to be able to talk to people on TMobile and Google fi I would have to transfer my service to att

    But also, the service is free to setup and run on your own

    So instead of 3 or 4 big cell carriers there are thousands

    Also, some added info: Also, with the fediverse, when you transfer service you can take your data with you Just like you can take your text messages and phone number with you Fediverse meaning all the apps that work this way, like mastodon and Lemmy (at least those two one have data transfers I think)

    Edit: can’t transfer account