What is the fucking point of living if everything you believed in can be taken from you by some old white fucks

  • gregorum@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    He wouldn’t have to. He just throw Trump in jail, along with the SCOTUS justices he doesn’t like, appoint new ones, openly rig the elections, and see what congress has to say about it.

    I bet there’d finally be some meaningful reform very suddenly.

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      He cannot unilaterally remove a justice from the court, or a candidate from the ballot. Even if they are in jail, a judge would need to be impeached, and Trump could still be elected.

      But dead is dead. If you’re going to go full tyrant…

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        I’m sorry, did you miss the part about this being SCOTUS declaring presidents as kings? If SCOTUS sides with Trump, nothing you said matters because Biden could just do it anyway.

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          Even Kings are only as powerful as their supporters allow them to be. Biden lacks the charisma to sell the lie that he can remove justices or presidential candidates. The “liberal” justices wouldn’t support him, nor would congress or most states. There are no Biden acolytes. Murder is cleaner.

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                Its law of the land until they rule it isn’t moreso when a case that will set precedent goes to the supreme court.

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                  It isn’t the law of the land. I agree that the court could fuck this up and create a catastrophe, but the law is plain and clear on the issue, Presidents are not kings.

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                    It 100% is, the supreme Court only gets to say if it is or isn’t legal until they do it is neither legal nor illegal but no more or less illegal than if it were committed at the same time. It wouldn’t be clearly established until ruled on which it hasn’t been.

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        Simpler still, the president can remove citizenship, can’t be a justice of you’re not a citizen. You can’t even hold most offices at that point.

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          Again, Biden can’t just unilaterally declare things. He would need Congress, States, and the Courts to go along with any legal maneuvering, and he doesn’t have nearly enough devoted supporters to declare anybody anything.

          But he can have people killed. Dead people can’t argue.

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            At the moment and (traditionally), yes he can that’s literally what we’re in court about. If laws don’t apply to the president he can do what he wants. Chest of Congress, replace governor’s with lackies, remove uncooperative justices, it’s pretty easy to get away with shit when you’re literally untouchable.

            I’m the case of citizenship the government has always had the power to revoke but just for limited things like running for foreign office. So it’s simple just say they’re running for foreign office, who’s gunna argue with the god king with all the nukes.

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              You’re missing the point.

              If laws don’t apply, then the President can do whatever he can convince his followers to go along with. Trump might have his party by the short hairs, but Biden is not that influential among Democrats. Biden could declare whatever he wants, but without cooperation from government agencies, states, party leadership, and judges, it would be ineffective.

              How many judges do you think would do for Biden what Aileen Cannon is doing for Trump? How many SCOTUS justices would reverse theory own rulings to serve Biden’s interests? How many governors would abandon all reason and justice to fall in line behind dear leader?

              Whether it’s corruption, kompromat, or abject stupidity, conservatives cluster around the party identity and will parrot whatever bullshit they are fed. Nobody is storming the Capitol building for Joe Biden.

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                He doesn’t need all the support just key support which you get by threatening murder. That’s literally why it was brought up.

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                  To remove a justice, or a candidate, or take away someone’s citizenship, you’d need more support than Biden’s got. To murder someone, you just need to be a sociopath.