• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Death rates aren’t a feeling. I want some hard numbers.

    I feel like we just don’t care if we live or die anymore.

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      1 year ago

      I know I’ve read reports about the latest variants being much less deadly. I did see one study recently which for patients presenting to hospital covid was a few percentage points more likely to result in death compared to hospitalized flu patients. There were a lot more covid patients though.

      Found it:

      death rates among people hospitalized for COVID-19 were 17% to 21% in 2020 vs 6% in this study, while death rates for those hospitalized for influenza were 3.8% in 2020 vs 3.7% in this study

      https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2803749

      So there is some data backing up the feelings I’ve gotten from everything I’ve been hearing and seeing.

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          1 year ago

          I mean, that’s one way to look at it. I looked at it as only a couple percent higher death rate than the flu. Either way, a little less than 2x is way better than like 5x worse.

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            1 year ago

            Obviously it’s better than before, but it’s also worth keeping in mind these deaths are in addition to the flu.

            Also, there are good and bad flu seasons. I see no reason for COVID to not be the same.

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        1 year ago

        There’s one crucial thing you overlooked in this: in 2020, most people hadn’t been infected, and hadn’t gotten the vaccine (because there was no vaccine until December,and even then it was in extremely short supply). Now, most people have some sort of immunity, be it from vaccine or from a prior infection. That definitely skews the hospitalization numbers downward. You can’t compare then and now, unfortunately, since there’s no real community that hasn’t been vaccinated and hasn’t caught it - and so you can’t compare their numbers.

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          1 year ago

          That’s fair, but I think you can still compare it to the flu, which is not that far off from covid percentage wise. At this point both the flu and covid should be at an equal level of people having vaccines and natural antibodies, right? Even if you go with covid being about twice as deadly as the flu, twice as deadly as almost nothing is still almost nothing.