• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Simply defeating Trump with just any warm body isn’t good enough.

    Well, the party isn’t willing to do better and I’d be happy if they put up someone who can beat him. That person isn’t Biden. Of course, I would also like it if the party would stop enabling genocide and move to the fucking left for the first time in fifty goddamned years, but I’ll take what I can get.

    A good first step would be for the party to admit they made a mistake. If the party can’t take that first step, they’re never gonna stop interpreting all events as evidence that they need to move to the right.

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      4 months ago

      Begging the party won’t help.

      It’s our job to COERCE the party to do our bidding. The party must know if they displease their voters there are meaningful risks and downsides for them. It’s our duty to engineer those meaningful risks and downsides or else the party has every reason to ignore us.

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        4 months ago

        At the moment, we’re dealing with a party that would rather lose than listen. I want to get them to listen.

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          If you engineer meaningful risks and consequences for the party, they will HAVE to listen to you.

          If you only plan to beg them politely, they could choose to ignore you. Whether or not they listened to you in this case would be completely at the pleasure of the party.

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              4 months ago

              Oh yea, which risks and consequences have you engineered for your truant representatives that they continue ignoring you?

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                4 months ago

                Anyone who represents me lower than VP is a Republican. Democrats made sure of that when they pulled the funding of the progressive who was running in my district.

                At the moment, just getting the party to put forward someone other than Biden is a win. I’m not in a position to engineer shit and neither are you.