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      2 months ago

      I’d have to say citation needed

      Well the democrats are trying mighty hard to keep Claudia De la Cruz and Jill Stein off the ballots.

      Also, I LOVED Bernie Sanders, and I personally think the Democrats did him dirty because they wanted Hilary on the ticket. And look how that turned out.

      • Also, I LOVED Bernie Sanders,

        Same.

        and I personally think the Democrats did him dirty because they wanted Hilary on the ticket. And look how that turned out.

        It actually took a lot for Dems to lose that year, when you think about it. It’s definitely possible that had Sanders been on the ticket, he’d have won - it wouldn’t have been possible to subject him to things like the unimportant email scandal or Flynn announcing that Clinton’s being investigated, etc.

        Likewise, there’s a good chance Clinton would have won if she had dropped out and endorsed Clinton. There’s an interesting parallel here - RJK Jr would have drawn off more Biden voters, and thus the GOP would have won. But this trend reversed when Harris took over, and so RJK dropped out and joined the GOP’s candidate’s campaign instead.

        Well the democrats are trying mighty hard to keep Claudia De la Cruz and Jill Stein off the ballots.

        Yeah, those are covered by my earlier statement:

        (barring of course the cases I implied above - but in those the reasoning is more nuanced than just “nO mOrE cHoIcEs”).

        To reiterate - that this is being done is deplorable, but in a first-past-the-post that’s as broken as what we have here, it’s kinda understandable. In a weird reverse, we also have Dems suing to keep RJK Jr on the ballot.

        The scenario that they fear is this: many middle folks vote Harris, more lefties vote Stein and De la Cruz, combined they have more votes together than the GOP guy, but he still wins.

        I’m convinced we wouldn’t see Dems do this if we had ranked-choice voting for President. Even a Georgia style runoff would be better. RCV might make Jill Stein immune to accusations of being a Russian spoiler etc.