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    I guess this would make more sense if I knew who the first guy was. I know about the charges against Russell Brand. No idea his connection to Ricky Gervais, if any.

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      @xantoxis the first guy is a British entertainer named Jimmy Saville. There were rumours about him for years but he was very litigious.

      After his death it was found that he had sexually assaulted or raped at least 400 people, including children, boys, women, and old people. It was also found he probably assaulted corpses in a hospital morgue.

      Although far less prolific Russell Brand is also a British entertainer, again there were rumours about him assaulting or raping people for many years but again people were scared of litigation. British defamation laws are very strict.

      The implication is that Ricky Gervais has more in common with the other two than just being a British entertainer.

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      The first is a European kiddy diddler. Forget the name. Gervase is just a bigot as far as I can tell with my limited knowledge.

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        lol how is he a bigot? Stop trying to use big words you don’t understand.

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            They can, and he is! Ricky Gervais is a hardcore transphobe and the guy above you should lighten up

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              he also likes his rape jokes.

              I didn’t know about the transpobe bit ; his segment on rape jokes was enough to put me off him.

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                https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qtj7LDYaufM

                Here’s a video essay by ContraPoints that goes into it

                Edit: if you alt right lurker chuds wanna actually comment we can talk about what I said that was wrong, but we all know you won’t. We can see your reduces and you have a REALLY pathetic post history

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                  Thanks

                  I got a friend that loves Gervais and struggles to see how bad he is.

                  I hope ContraPoints will help.

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                  This is the limited knowledge I was referring to. I saw this video a while back and it stuck in my head. I haven’t seen anything by gervase really outside of this. Transphobia is a form of bigotry as far as I’m concerned so my point stands. It’s not ok to do and say bigoted things and go haha it’s just a joke. Or you just don’t get the joke while saying hateful things. Just because it was ok to shit on minority groups in the past doesn’t make it right or less bigoted. It’s possible to be funny and not a bigot, try harder Ricky.

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                @Narrrz

                Yeah the guy really punches down.

                His schtick is kind of cringe-meets-bullying… where they say bigoted things “ironically” but underlying that is the assumption that the targets of bigotry should be made fun of for the same reasons they are targets of bigotry.

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          I was recently invited to be a co-organiser of a stand-up comedy festival. I’d never done one before so I was given the rundown before we got to work.

          The first thing they told me is that over the past ten(ish) years, comedy festival audiences had completely changed from people coming out to laugh, to people coming out to find ways to be offended, like people who once rode roller coasters for the fear and thrill, now riding them to see how much they could sue for being intentionally frightened.

          And it’s true. I saw it actually happening. Every night of comedy two or three people would yell out “inappropriate” or “intolerant” instead of just laughing at what were essentially jokes told in a place centred around joking.

          People are dogshit now. We’ve lost our fucking way. We’ve actually gone to war with humour and laughter.