Throughout the corridors of many state Capitols, families are sharing emotionally gutting stories of tragedy caused by mass school shootings with the hope that revealing their trauma will convince lawmakers on either side of the political aisle to reconsider firearm policies.
  • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Kind of pointless to pick a single particular time and argue that something would or would not have stopped it without any actual data.

    If guns were less prevalent and harder to get would it cause there to be less gun fatalities?

    If you are harder on people committing gun crimes would there be less gun fatalities?

    If it were illegal to carry large amounts of amnition around with you, would there be less gun fatalities?

    If it were illegal to carry around lots of weapons without being in a well-regulated militia, hence where police or other people would see you and go in that person’s probably up to no good, would that cause there to be less gun fidelities?

    Those statements have a lot more deciding power behind them whether they’re right or wrong are you agree or disagree They actually mean something.

    If some kid rolls up and does a school shooting do we hold their families responsible? You lived with that guy, prove reasonable doubt that you didn’t see it happening and not report it.

    But this one time it band camp crap doesn’t prove or disprove anything it doesn’t say anything about the general working of gun laws on population.

    • Jordan Lund@lemmy.oneEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      Kind of pointless to pick a single particular time and argue that something would or would not have stopped it without any actual data.

      Agreed, but I’m not the one citing it as an example of why the state needed an open carry ban. Fact of the matter is it was a driveby shooting, not a case of someone open carrying shooting.

      If guns were less prevalent and harder to get would it cause there to be less gun fatalities?

      Sure, but that can’t happen because of the 2nd amendment. It’s a non-starter.

      If you are harder on people committing gun crimes would there be less gun fatalities?

      Not really, no. Mass shootings end in either suicide, life in prison, or the death penalty. Hasn’t stopped them.

      If it were illegal to carry large amounts of amnition around with you, would there be less gun fatalities?

      Nope, because there’s no danger in carrying ammo.

      If it were illegal to carry around lots of weapons without being in a well-regulated militia, hence where police or other people would see you and go in that person’s probably up to no good, would that cause there to be less gun fidelities?

      That’s not what the founders meant by “well regulated militia”.

      https://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment2.html

      “Further, the Court found that the phrase “well regulated Militia” referred not to formally organized state or federal militias, but to the pool of able-bodied men who were available for conscription.15”

      If some kid rolls up and does a school shooting do we hold their families responsible?

      In the case of the Crumbleys? Yes.
      https://abcnews.go.com/US/parents-michigan-high-school-shooter-ethan-crumbley-trial/story?id=98072544