cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/23975556

Crossposts might be annoying, because

  • essentially they are the “repost” feature of lemmy. And repeats might be low quality spam, because you have to look at the source, how often it was reposted already, etc.
  • crossposts might seem like a cry for unwarranted attention, but they might be necessary in a fractured federated system like Lemmy …

Or do you not care when realizing “this is a crosspost”?

  • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    6·
    19 hours ago

    They work better on lemmy, since fragmentation is pretty common.

    I personally treat all crossposts the same, from the upvotes/comments etc

  • Peppycito@sh.itjust.works
    8·
    21 hours ago

    Yes. It’s annoying. I wish all the posts from the same person were in one thread so there weren’t 12 conversations happening in 12 different rooms.

    When I see 5 posts in a row by the same person I look at their history and if they do that on the regular without making comments I block them.

    • scratsearcher 🔍🔮📊🎲@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
      2·
      21 hours ago

      theoretically a programmer could filter the duplicates out automatically … but I think this “repost problem” is not a top priority, the lemmy UI developers dont have much freetime at their hands to implement this.

      • Peppycito@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        20 hours ago

        The seemingly endless scroll of reposts is absolutely one of the factors preventing the casual passerby from sticking around lemmy. They won’t notice it’s posted to different instances, it just looks like a glitch.

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
    6·
    20 hours ago

    Nah, I ain’t mad.

    It helps visibility, and tends to help build awareness of related communities.

    Lemmy ain’t gotta be simple, and the fediverse really can’t be. There’s a degree of adaptation to the quirks of federation that takes a while to happen, and that’s one of the quirks. Someone crossposts, you’re going to see repeats. After a while, you get used to that and mentally filter it out. No big deal

  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
    3·
    19 hours ago

    Don’t get me wrong, but there’s two things I often hear around these parts.

    “All content should be in one place”

    And

    “Don’t like it? Create your own community!”

  • Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com
    3·
    19 hours ago

    The fact that you actually crossposted this between !nostupidquestions@lemmy.world and !nostupidquestions@lemmy.ca is interesting, but is an example of a recurring issue on the whole platform.

    My personal stance on this is that

    If rules, moderation policies and admin policies are similar, there should only be one community on a single topic while we have a userbase below 100k

    This allows for !politics@lemmy.world and !politics@hexbear.net to coexist, as there is a reason for them to (different moderation policies). It’s similar for !climate@slrpnk.net and !climatehope@lemmy.world, as those communities have different principles and perspectives on their topic.

    This suggests to consolidate communities like !movies@lemmy.world and !movies@lemm.ee

    Another recent example is

    These three communities have similar rules, similar moderation and admin policies. They should be consolidated. And I know this is a very controversial topic, but I made a longer post recently on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com for people interested.

    In summary, my main argument is that

    • even though subscribers can potentially subscribe to all communities on a topic
    • posters are only going to post to one community, because they want the conversation to happen with the most people in one place, which is not the case if you crosspost as the comments gets splintered across the different communities

    To take a recent example

    As a member of both communities, I find it a pain to have two similar communities even more so when both post the exact same content because it creates more noise in my feed and because it forces me to waste my time and energy deciding where I will read said duplicated content and maybe post a comment. The solution is obvious: I will unsubscribe from one (for the time being, I still follow the two communities).

    https://jlai.lu/post/16318139/13038429

    There is a natural tendency of “one community emerges as the main one” on several topics

    If one community does not emerge as the main one, it’s usually because two or more regular posters maintain both communities active by posting to their preferred community.

    So, my suggestions are to consolidate similar communities. This single decision will not make this platform similar to Reddit. On Reddit, you had no way to complain about power tripping mods, there were no public modlogs, and discourse criticizing the mods or the admins would get silenced.

    Here, we have !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com, and recent examples have shown that the community can actually resist power tripping: https://feddit.org/post/7025680/4263481.

    If the mods of the consolidated community start to power trip, document this on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com and reorganize on the alternative communities. If not, stay on that one community, to foster more active conversations and posts.

    That’s the theory we encourage on !fedigrow@lemm.ee, feel free to join us there to discuss this further.

  • sanderium@lemmy.zipEnglish
    2·
    19 hours ago

    I think they are fine if some different communities interests overlap. Otherwise all what you said is true and mostly a duplication of effort, and should probably merge communities.