I know that this is a phenomenon larger than just the US.
Are countries with anti-hate speech laws experiencing the same degree of increase in support of political violence and the advancement of far right parties? I know that we’re seeing this all over, but to what degree are anti-hate laws able to contain it?
But to what degree? The question wasn’t, “is the US alone on the march toward fascism?” it was, “Is the US unique in where it is on the march toward fascism?”
While we have real problems with the far right gaining ground in Germany I would argue that it is by no means comparable to the situation the US currently finds itself in.
I mean, the USA is literally one year away from the real possibility of full blown fascism while the fascists in Germany get 21-22% in polls and currently have no chance to successfully overthrow democracy.
So yes, I would argue that the USA is a couple of steps further than Germany along the way to fascism.
The question … was [] “Is the US unique in where it is on the march toward fascism?”
It was not. The question was:
Are countries with anti-hate speech laws experiencing the same degree of increase in support of political violence and the advancement of far right parties?
It’s a combination question, and I do not have enough insight to respond to “the same degree of increase in support of political violence.” I responded to (as I quoted) “the advancement of far right parties.”
The fact that I, a far-away American, have even heard of these people and organizations suggests that they are widespread enough to reach my awareness.
I’m pretty sure that Germany, France, and the UK are grappling with that right now.
I qualified my original statement appropriately. Based on your previous misstatement of what “the [OP] question was,” I am not surprised that you missed that.
If you’re spoiling for a fight, you can find it elsewhere.
I know that this is a phenomenon larger than just the US.
Are countries with anti-hate speech laws experiencing the same degree of increase in support of political violence and the advancement of far right parties? I know that we’re seeing this all over, but to what degree are anti-hate laws able to contain it?
I’m pretty sure that Germany, France, and the UK are grappling with that right now.
But to what degree? The question wasn’t, “is the US alone on the march toward fascism?” it was, “Is the US unique in where it is on the march toward fascism?”
German here.
While we have real problems with the far right gaining ground in Germany I would argue that it is by no means comparable to the situation the US currently finds itself in.
I mean, the USA is literally one year away from the real possibility of full blown fascism while the fascists in Germany get 21-22% in polls and currently have no chance to successfully overthrow democracy.
So yes, I would argue that the USA is a couple of steps further than Germany along the way to fascism.
Ah see, someone with actual experience, and surprise surprise, it differs from the assumptions of the dumbass American assuming things.
It was not. The question was:
It’s a combination question, and I do not have enough insight to respond to “the same degree of increase in support of political violence.” I responded to (as I quoted) “the advancement of far right parties.”
France has the Rassemblement National, with Marine Le Pen. Germany has Alternative für Deutschland (AfD). The UK is all over the place; the ones I’ve heard of are BNP and UKIP.
The fact that I, a far-away American, have even heard of these people and organizations suggests that they are widespread enough to reach my awareness.
Oh, so NOW you answer the question originally asked. and with … subjective experience not from the countries asked about. Sad.
Typical American, thinking you can confidantly speak about something you admittedly have little to no experience in.
I qualified my original statement appropriately. Based on your previous misstatement of what “the [OP] question was,” I am not surprised that you missed that.
If you’re spoiling for a fight, you can find it elsewhere.
You qualified your statement by admitting it wasn’t actually answering the question… Don’t answer a question you don’t know the answer to.