• trager_bombs@lemmy.worldOP
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      Whoever convinced his following that the man only jokes and never does anything honestly deserves some kind of reverse peace prize. Like the Oppenheimer Award or some shit.

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      He’ll do it, blame Democrats, and his ®etarded followers will eat it up.

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        Except for the fact that we’ve been collecting guns for 250 years to prevent this exact scenario. I support the right to own a gun more than I support actual gun ownership, if that makes any sense. A government SHOULD fear its people but I worry that ship sailed a hundred years ago.

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          Currently they don’t fear citizens with guns; they’re fishing for them, trying to bait them into violence so they can use that to sell the rest of the public on martial law and mass arrests.

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      Every time I think of our current dictatorship I look forward to 2028 when it’s over.

      But just look how much damage he’s done in only a the first few months, I dread to imagine how much he’s going to destroy in the next 3 years.

      At this point we’re all just counting on his health failing any day now, the sooner the better.

      And hoping his successors come back to their right minds and restore USA back to land of the free, American Dream and all that.

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        You expect 2028 to be…better?

        Nah dude. It’s going to get worse before it gets worse…

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          I don’t think you can make that prediction. Its quite possible things will become tepidly bearable again… before getting much much worse than it is now.

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            Everything is steadily getting worse in every category. That means that today is both the worst day in American history, and the best day we’ll ever have again. I absolutely promise you that there will come a day when you dream of having the problems we have now.

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    EXACTLY why I never joined a damned gun group. Also why I’m not even trying to find leftist groups.

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    A few key points tho:

    1. Is this an actual registry by design, or a product of recent brain rot jurisprudence that relief only applies to the plaintiffs listed, and thus this membership list is needed to know who does gets said relief?
    2. They already appealed to modify the judgment, and even the DOJ lawyer signed on to their appeal.
    3. Why? The SAF is a growing activist group, but they’re hardly the bulk of owners. The ATF has been digitizing dealer books of 4473s for decades and has eFile paperwork reporting on lock - if they want to build a registry, they have it already.

    This reads to me more like a judge made a call based on SCotUS’s recent goofy rulings around standing and relief, instead of a deliberate end-run registry.

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    Srsly Barbie, you’re overdue for some MAGA facework. Tbh your job isn’t secure.

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    The defendant has the right to identify their accuser…

    It’s just that in this case, the defendant is the ATF because they were overstepping their authority.

    And now the ATF will have at least a partial list of gun owners. I guess the intent is to provide relief to these and only these plaintiffs? i.e. the ATF can restrict the sale of firearms to individuals aged 18-20 with anyone NOT named on that list?

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      Their accuser is the organization. That doesn’t give them the right to know every member of the organization. That’s a really bad precedent.

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      Lots of loud people demanding she be fired and of course the ATF is being flamed a good amount too (just from what I can see). I appreciate your breakdown on this, some interesting ways it can unfold that I wouldn’t have known to watch for. 🤘🏽🖤

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        lol, yeah. I’m totally not a lawyer, but I do believe that in criminal cases that’s how it works between the defendant and the plaintiff. The defendant gets to face their accuser.

        Now, this might be a civil suit, and I don’t know how that relates or changes in civil law. This seems like a civil tort case.

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      If a human couldn’t be bothered to write it, I can’t be bothered to read it.

      TLDR; git gud dipshit

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      That certainly is a lot of water you wasted for something no one is going to read.