It’s possible that the enforcement of a rate limit isn’t because of AI scraping, but rather because they failed to migrate before the June 30th deadline.

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    I don’t know what will happen with Twitter. Maybe it succeeds, maybe it fails, maybe it just keeps humming along in mediocrity. But what I do know is that wherever it ends up, there was surely a much simpler way to get there.

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    I used to work for a local company that sold parts to Tesla. They were a huge nightmare and wouldn’t pay us. I think that is their whole deal. Not paying the small companies.

    FUCK them

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    Twitter was an important unifying communications tool during the Arab Spring. The Arab spring was a threat to biz as usual in places like Saudi Arabia. The second largest investor in Twitter is Saudi Arabia.

    Saudi Arabia killed and dismembered a journalist from the US, more or less in plain sight. Elon is now killing and dismembering Twitter in plain sight to limit its power as a unifying tool that stands as a demonstrable, active threat to capitalism and oligarchs around the world.

    Billionaires do favors for other billionaires. It’s part of why spez is trying to tank Reddit. Remember how dangerous Reddit was to capitalism’s status quo around the time of GME/Robinhood/Antiwork recently.

    The specific moment we’re in right now is meant to shatter consolidated organizing power on Reddit as we splinter into several smaller alternative platforms (or for some, disconnect entirely). Not saying we shouldn’t be in Lemmy, but calling out the larger reality of the moment.

    Billionaires do favors for other billionaires.

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      That’s a bit too much conspiracy for my taste, but for sure, billionaires don’t do anything for our good.

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        Exactly. Billionairs look out for themselves first and foremost. They try to maximise their profit.

        Musk wants to push more people to pay for verified. The reddit board (not only Spez) wants people to download their app to make it seem like their growing right before their IPO, while simultaneously forcing more ad views. Probably downloading the app also lets them track a lot of extra data about you as well.

        No conspiracy needed to explain all this.

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    It’s ok guys, Elon told his engineers to just rewrite the stack, so all problems will go away!

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        You dont make that kind of money being honest and empathetic. The most honest ppl I know that run businesses are barely paying themselves. There’s a reason CEOs have higher than normal representation of psychopaths. It allows them to make the best decisions even if it means running the orphan killing machine 24/7.

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        This is so much more true than I think most people believe.

        My husband and I have a small engine business, and I took a free “community entrepreneur bootcamp” class through the local university this spring in the hope that we might learn something helpful. Instead, I learned fun things like leaning on your customers’ fears as a marketing tactic (?? 😔🤦) and that the most prominent local accountant - brought in as an expert speaker by the university! - advises his clients to pay as little as possible as late as possible, and most appallingly, I’m not exaggerating, these are the actual words I heard this man say in front of a room full of people: “if one of your employees gets hurt at your business, it’s better for you to stand on their neck until they stop breathing than to call for help, because it’s so much easier and cheaper to settle a death claim then an injury.” And he actually said that it sounds like he’s joking but he’s not, this is his understanding of the situation.

        I genuinely want to see the best in everyone, and I have never before had the experience of fantasizing about a person’s death while they were talking in front of me, and it was abhorrent and awful but also… Wtf? How do we even help someone who sees other people as expendable tools the way this person does?

        What can we even do about people who not only don’t want to live up to their agreements and commitments, but are just straight up out to fuck everyone else over? How do we help/fix that?

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          It sounds very similar to when I was in seminary. They literally had classes on how to manipulate your audience. How to “use vocal patterns and body language to make yourself appear more sincere.”

          People severely underestimate how many shitty people there are in this world (and even those who appear trustworthy) that would eat your firstborn to increase their net worth if it wasn’t illegal.

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            I read an article years ago that explained why so many people get “religious” feelings at big revival-type events at Six Flags, Carowinds, etc, even if they’re not particularly devout.

            There’s a thing called respiratory alkalosis (essentially hyperventilation) which makes you light-headed and confused. At it’s really easy to trigger by making people stand up quickly, sing really hard, sit back down, stand up and cheer, etc.

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              That sounds interesting! Do you remember where you found it? I would love to read it.

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                I’m back! I couldn’t find the specific thing I read, but I found something probably better, an actual study published in Pubmed:
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8871314/

                Statistical analyses showed that the psychological disposition during the religious worship experience speeds up the physiological responses, which was indicated by increases in HR [hear rate] and RR [respiratory rate]. Hence, the activation hypothesis was accepted, and the pacification hypothesis was rejected.

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                  Thanks! You made my day, my good lemming.

                  The conclusion fits what you said earlier, and it is easy to see how this is probably used cynically for these cult bro events:

                  The first analysis was an exploration of the physiological data, where it was seen that HR and RR were significantly correlated. The values of how strongly the participants were able to focus on God were strongly associated with the intensity of the experience as well as with the physiological variables

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    I’m not going to claim I know what’s happening, but I like the self-DDoSing explanation because it’s even funnier

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    i wonder if we will end using personal webpages with FOSS/affordable domains and integration to forums and video platforms, just to avoid some crazy CEO screwing our content again.

    i think social media was good, but we gave the CEOs too much power over our content and accounts.

    so… we went from “social media is where society creates media” to “social media is where tech CEO’s control and keep society’s media hostage”.

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      i wonder if we will end using personal webpages with FOSS/affordable domains and integration to forums and video platforms, just to avoid some crazy CEO screwing our content again.

      That’s what we had before. And it never stopped to exist, it just dwindled out for convenience.

      • no more personal website but just a “facebook page”, for convenience
      • no integration between sites, just a few huge ones, for convenience
      • no customisation and personal expression but large, uniformised experience, for convenience
      • no small hosting and individual presence online, just a few massive (corporate) infrastructures graciously given to us, for convenience
      • no control over policies and content, just be happy with what our generous overlord allows us to do, for convenience

      The “fediverse” is a step in the good direction, but as long as the general user don’t care, these huge services will keep being the “main” internet for the forseeable future. Even abusing the userbase and getting batshit crazy with rules and restrictions isn’t stopping them.

      Meanwhile, some of us are happy on out littler corner of the internet, using RSS to see what’s new on individual websites, and depending on services that are either sanely hosted or even self-hosted and interoperable. But that’s not for everyone.

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    Image Transcription: News Article Screenshot:


    [A screenshot of a section of an article by the news outlet “Engadget”. Text reads as follows.]

    More platform instability could be in Twitter’s near future. In 2018, Twitter signed a $1 billion contract with Google to host some of its services on the company’s Google Cloud servers. [Hyperlink begins] Platformer reports [Hyperlink ends] Twitter recently refused to pay the search giant ahead of the contract’s [Highlighted in yellow] June 30th renewal date. [Highlighting ends] Twitter is reportedly rushing to move as many services off of Google’s infrastructure before the contract expires, but the effort is “running behind schedule,” putting some tools, including Smyte, a platform the company [Hyperlink begins] acquired in 2018 [Hyperlink ends] to bolster its moderation capabilities, in danger of going offline.


    ^I’m a human volunteer transcribing posts in a format compatible with screen readers, for blind and visually impaired users!^

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      You’re doing important work! Just wanted to drop a small correction, the news outlet is actually called “engadget” Cheers!

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      When all this crap started, my guess was that he is some sort of captured asset that’s using his position to sabotage the platform to hinder free speech. Initially, he was so strongly targeting any anti-trump/anti-republican assets that it seemed blatantly obvious, but my money is on Russia or China. China being the more obvious option, given they supply a lot of Tesla’s materials.

      That’s all conjecture of course, he could just be an insane despot cutting his nose off to spite his face like Steve Huffman.

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    At this point I have no idea if twitter dying is a planned thing or mismanagement. I made my profile my freshman year of high school and never logged back on. The only thing I’ll miss is having a general place for quick updates on projects that I’m keeping an eye on. Guess it’s time to fully utilized discord.

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    At this point I have no idea if twitter dying is a planned thing or mismanagement. I made my profile my freshman year of high school and never logged back on. The only thing I’ll miss is having a general place for quick updates on projects that I’m keeping an eye on. Guess it’s time to fully utilized discord.