US transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg on Monday said human drivers must pay attention at all times after videos emerged of people wearing what appeared to be Apple’s recently released Vision Pro headset while driving Teslas.

Buttigieg responded on Twitter/X to a video that had more than 24m views of a Tesla driver who appeared to be gesturing with his hands to manipulate a virtual reality field.

Despite their names, Tesla’s assisted driving features – Autopilot, Enhanced Autopilot and Full Self-Driving – do not mean the vehicles are fully autonomous, Buttigieg said Monday on social media.

“Reminder – ALL advanced driver assistance systems available today require the human driver to be in control and fully engaged in the driving task at all times,” Buttigieg said.

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    If he was in pass thru he’d be vommiting because there’s no faster way to make yourself sick.

    The issue I have with your comment is this. You’re asserting that the experience you had with nausea and VR is the experience everyone has or will have with nausea and VR.

    Some people can’t read a book in the car without getting motion sickness. Some people can read hundreds. Some can read a few pages.

    Some people can read a book but not play a video game. Some people have the opposite problem.

    There’s no way this was “fake” maybe staged, but this person was clearly in the driver’s seat driving down a public 4-lane highway. Staged video or not, that’s dangerous.

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      If you can find one person who has used pass-through while walking around for like 15 minutes and hasn’t gotten sick, you’ve found one more person than me. I’ve never heard anyone mention pass-thru that didn’t immediately follow up that it made them extremely sick.

      I’m not a person prone to motion sickness. I’m on boats all the time. I drive hundreds of miles at a stretch without a problem. I started feeling queasy in pass-thru within about 5 minutes. But I stuck with it and within 20 minutes I was on the verge of vomiting. This is not a subtle thing or something that only affects those with a weak constitution.

      So I don’t know. Maybe there are folks out there who are completely unaffected by it.

      Then there is the claim someone made that a user experience video showed that the headset just shut down at high speeds and couldn’t even be used on a train. I can’t verify that quickly with Google.

      I’m not sure where your line is between “fake” and “staged” but if they are only putting the headset on for the purpose of the video and they don’t actually drive around that way, I’m calling that fake. Because they aren’t actually using the headset except to draw attention to the fact that they are wearing the headset. People aren’t actually doing this. They created a fake controversy.

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        Hi, it’s me, I’ve done it. With my old quest 2 I walked all around my house for a good half hour through pass through no problem.

        Your anecdote is not evidence.

        With regards to the video being fake or staged, I’m not entering that ring today.

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        I walk around my apartment in pass-thru all the fucking time during weekend long vr sessions with friends. I never get vr sick at all.

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        Add me to the list. Have never gotten sick from VR. Ever. Passthrough on the Vision Pro doesn’t make me sick. Cooked a meal with the it on. Ran upstairs and down with it on. Refuse to drive with it on.

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        I think the other comments have touched on the motion sickness point enough…

        I’m not sure where your line is between “fake” and “staged” but if they are only putting the headset on for the purpose of the video and they don’t actually drive around that way, I’m calling that fake. Because they aren’t actually using the headset except to draw attention to the fact that they are wearing the headset. People aren’t actually doing this. They created a fake controversy.

        As for this, I only use fake if what appears to have happened didn’t actually happen, e.g. it looks like somebody got stabbed but they definitely didn’t (be it CGI, camera angles, fake knives, etc).

        Where as staged is more “that’s what actually happened” but it happened intentionally to make a video. “Here’s your sign” and influencer videos can definitely qualify lol

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          Okay. I’m not saying the guy wasn’t actually wearing the googles. I’m saying the guy doesn’t actually wear the goggles except when he’s wearing them to poke fun at how ridiculous it would be to wear them. They are being worn ironically, not because the dude actually goes around wearing VR googles in his car.

          For one, if a cop ever saw him, he’d be pulled over and cited, and he’d wind up in a fucking car chase and never even know it. Does autopilot automatically pull over for emergency vehicles? I can’t believe anyone is treating this with an ounce of seriousness except for the fact that morons that can’t tell the whole thing is a joke will actually go and do it.