Edit: YOOOOOOOO YOU CAN EDIT TITLES HERE
Anyway, you have to first search for the community in the format !whatever@where.ever. It doesn’t show up the first time but if you mash Enter for a while it will…
Also, this FAQ linked by @[email protected] is pretty helpful and covers some of the pitfalls of being the first (or only!) person in an instance to subscribe to a community: https://lemm.ee/post/37715
Edit 2: Found https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3055 requesting better support for discovering federated communities. Please consider upvoting that issue if you have a github account and think it would be helpful!
I made myself a lemmy: https://tortoisewrath.com
You may notice I am not writing to you from said lemmy… because https://tortoisewrath.com/c/[email protected] is a 404. In fact, though it appears to have federated itself with a bunch of other servers, it only appears to be able to see two communities. These were among the first few communities I tried to access ([email protected] didn’t work but those two did) - since adding those two, I haven’t been able to see any others, even on lemmy.ml where the first two were.
Is this normal? Do I just need to be more patient and it’ll figure it out on its own, or is there some switch I need to flip to make it do the thing?
(Apologies if this is obvious to those who understand the fediverse but I have no idea what I’m doing)
What I do is:
- I take the name “[email protected]”
- copy and paste it into the search in my instance
- press “search”
- it shows “No results.”
- I go to Communities on my instance
- I click on “All”
- At the bottom of the list I can see “[email protected]” and the Subscribe button
I guess it is some kind of a bug. If I post a url of a post, it also takes qute some time, several seconds, until it shows up.
My process is similar, but i don’t use the !ommunity@instance format. I just copy the url and search for it.
Search: “https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted”
it will initially return Nothing found but after another second, it shows up and i can click it and then subscribe to get new posts and comments.
@[email protected] Maybe edit the post with the solution, it will be useful to others.
Wish it would at least copy the instance list when federating, or have it as an option
Feels so empty browsing All when it’s identical to Subscribedhttps://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3055 seems related
Have you tried searching for the communities first? As I understand it from some other posts, if you try to access a remote community via URL through your home instance before it “knows” about it, you’ll get the 404 error. Someone (you) on your instance has to make your instance “aware” of the remote community by searching for it first. Then, after your instance is aware of the community and federating it, you can access it via URL as you posted above.
THANK YOU
I didn’t remember doing this for the first two, but I guess I must have. (I would reply from there, but comments haven’t synced yet, which I guess is expected)
I’m glad that worked. I’m considering launching a personal self-hosted instance of my own, so I may be in your shoes soon enough.
How did you find the process? Did you use Docker or Ansible?
This is so damn cool! I am going to be adapting the docker stacks to nomad jobs and running one on my homelab cluster. I was pretty bummed about Reddit this month I am stunned at how good Lemmy is.
For me this is happening at a community level, not instance.
Like I can be federated with lemmy.ml or beehaw.org but to join/index a community I haven’t been to, I have to spam search first to get the server to pull it. Then I’m good (except for lemmy.ml which I have a ton of pending subscribes going)
I’d also like to know how it works. I switched to sh.itjust.works because it’s a lot faster than lemmy.world, but trying to migrate my subscriptions, lemmy.ca doesn’t show up, nor does lemmygrad.ml.
Things in the fediverse can be pretty fractured. Many instances block lemmygrad. Kbin has not been federating right because it is buggy, a newish feature for it, and/or under insane load. About 2 hours ago beehaw.org defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works.
Similar things happened during the mastodon boom. Lots of federation/blocking drama between various instances. A lot of drama about “free speech” instances and NSFW in particular, IIRC. A lot of the GNU Social side of the fediverse leaned heavily into the “free speech” aspect, which was jarring for some new users/servers admins to mastodon.
Honestly, your best option is to selfhost or find a small instance with some sort of non-open admission policy. Even that can make things hard as some instances can have a restrictive federation policy (only federating to explicitly allowed instances), though I don’t think that is a very popular at the moment. If spammers start spinning up their own servers instead of making accounts on open servers that may start happening.
This is the main reason I’m here - I realized that with an account on lemmy.world or something some admin somewhere could just unilaterally decide to defederate some major server and I wouldn’t be able to get to half the communities I like anymore. And lo and behold, beehaw.org defederated lemmy.world while I was setting this up.
I always thought this mechanic would drive a lot of people away from the fediverse, but mastodon still seems to be pretty active after the mass migrations from Tumblr and Twitter so what do I know?
Re. Mastodon: Insular communities gonna insulate. Defederation has collateral damage, but among some communities that is acceptable because they view intolerance and the toleration of intolerance as close enough to warrant blanket handling. (See that “Nazi bar” story that’s often cited)
Re. Lemmy: I think we will see much of the same. Lemmy is (IMO) in a slightly more immature state than Mastodon was when it had one of its early booms (when I ran an instance briefly). Especially w/r/t mod tools and stuff, which is part of why things are fragmenting at the moment.
I want my instance to run “under the radar” for the most part. Personally I’d rather leave things up to individuals to decide what they do or don’t want to see. For example, if you enable NSFW content and browse “all” posts, don’t be surprised if there is NSFW content there. Or content you don’t agree with. But, if you borrow my car with my company logo on it (use my instance) to go to someone else’s house (some community on another instance) and piss in their cornflakes (break that community’s rules) I am not going to let you keep borrowing my car (kick you off my instance). And on the communities fully hosted on the instance itself I want them to generally be welcoming to others, which includes showing people who are not welcoming the door.
