• WontonSoup@lemmy.world
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    Why do the people you grow up loving for their music make you hate them for their politics. It’s literally free for them all to just stfu

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          It’s weird how correlated these things are. Are all racists antivax? No. Are all antivaxers racist? No.

          But the overlap is so high that it’s unsurprising to learn someone who is one of these things is also the other.

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            It’s largely because the latest right-wing dogwhistle is anti-vaxx. Before Covid and the Trump presidency, most anti-vaxxers were left wing hippies living in communes and taking colloidal silver for cancer treatment or having their naturopath distill the vibrations in their body water to treat sickness.

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              I agree with everything here except that the right wing anti-vax nonsense began with trump and Covid. That definitely accelerated things, but there was a strong anti-vax sentiment in the Republican Party even before trump.

              During the GOP primary debates for the 2016 election, every single candidate cast doubt on the standard childhood vaccine regimen. The candidate who came closest to supporting vaccinating children was Rand Paul. And even though he definitely knows better, he argues vaccines should be given at a slower rate to “spread out” the effects.

              I think the aversion to vaccines comes from the republican mistrust of science and expertise in general. This “know nothing”ism has been growing for a while - see Sarah Palin in the 2012 election.

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              My recollection is that the shift started pre-covid. Anti-vaxxers were originally predominantly left leaning but I think it hit the 50/50 range somewhere around 2012-2014. At least in the US. Trump shifted it even more, then covid+Trump just completely inverted where it had been a generation prior.

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                The “vaccines cause autism” crowd are what comes to my mind.

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              It’s not like the right wingers didn’t have their nut jobs with compounds believing vaccines and such were government over reach.

              They didn’t call them “communes” though. And they maybe had a shocking about of guns and shit

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      Clapton has been a racist piece of shit since the 70s. He also copied most of his signature style from blues musicians, along with a couple of songs he claimed to have written and later admitted he didn’t.

      He’s a garbage human who has a talent for the guitar.

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      i don’t want them to shut up, i’m glad to know these things.

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      Because they’re still people just like the rest of us. Just because they have musical ability and money doesn’t mean they don’t get the same dopamine hits from social media that we all do.

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      well, the good news is that he’s miserable. he’s written a lot fo music for decades about it.

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      He was always racist, he just got too old to hide it and picked up a few more insane beliefs by watching television that excuses racism.

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    They say never meet your heroes. The only problem is that all my heroes have jumped on the internet and are trying to meet me

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      Yup. Enjoy his music, but he’s turned into a total cunt in recent years.

      Maybe society will realize one day that celebrity hero worship is a bad thing.

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          What’s the difference between Conor Clapton and a bag of cocaine?

          Eric Clapton would never let a bag of cocaine fall out a window.

          sorry

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          Has he? I have heard some stories about his political opinions over the last couple of years, but I honestly never heard too many other negative stories about the guy. Then again, I honestly don’t care to dig into his past. I’m not one of those who follow artists I like. There are tons of bands I love their music and I couldn’t tell you what they even look like.

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            Well, back in the '70s he stole one of the Beatles wives (George Harrison, I think), stole songs from blues artists he claimed to revere, went on a public rant about how England was a white country (and should stay that way). So yeah, he’s been a giant douche for decades.

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              “Do we have any foreigners in the audience tonight? If so, please put up your hands… So where are you? Well wherever you all are, I think you should all just leave. Not just leave the hall, leave our country … I don’t want you here, in the room or in my country. Listen to me, man! I think we should send them all back. Stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Get the foreigners out. Get the wogs out. Get the coons out. Keep Britain white”

              Genuine piece of shit

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              But he can’t be racist, he covered “I shot the Sheriff”?!

              (Michael Franti mentioned it back in the 90s)

              They’re fuckin’ with Ice T but they don’t even care if
              Eric Clapton’s singin’ I Shot the Sheriff!

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    nice! just gotta set up shell corporations to fund pac’s - that’s the right way to donate to politicians