• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    12 days ago

    China isn’t ignoring calls to reduce emissions, it’s one of the only countries effectively meeting them while producing what the entire world relies upon. That you continue to fall for the green washing from imperialist countries blaming China for their own parasitic economies is baffling.

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      12 days ago

      China isnt ignoring calls to reduce emissions they’ve just spent the last 15 years exponentially increasing emissions.

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        8 days ago

        Per capita consumption, ie the actual environmental impact of the average citizen of China, is far below the EU. You’re falling for greenwashing while China continues to focus on creating an actually green producer country, instead of pretending the fact that you don’t produce anything means you’re good environmentally.

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          8 days ago

          Per captia consumption is not relevant to emissions. China chooses to manufacturer with low regulation and dirty power sources. They cant then turn around and say its the EU citizens fault for buying from them. China is poor in every single environmental stat and you’ve run down the entire list to the point where you’re trying to argue on per captia consumption. By the way half of china’s population is rural and poor the other half are very close to the EU citizens in consumption.

          The EU does produce goods and they have strong environmental regulations but you cant compete against the country that is willing to poison its own rivers to avoid the cost of proper disposal. That makes the EU far ahead of China and this is ignoring things like labour laws, healthcare, justice etc.

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            1 day ago

            Per capita consumption is critical for understanding emissions, because they tell us how much the world has to give up to support the lifestyles of a given country. The global north consumes far more per capita in an entirely unsustainable way, and greenwashes by producing very little of their own consumption, thereby blaming the sources of their lifestyles for underdeveloped energy.

            Further, China is making far greater strides towards a green system than the EU. The EU’s healthcare system, and other social safety nets, are funded through imperialism, which you keep ignoring. The imperialist countries are parasitic on the planet, produce little of value, and yet consume the bulk of production globally.

            This is what you greenwash for.

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              14 hours ago

              China undercut western manufacturing to produce goods at a lower cost with higher emissions and less environmental safety. No one forced them to do that. China is way behind the renewable transition compared with the EU. They are still powered by coal and still dumping into their rivers.

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                3 hours ago

                China is a developing country, and yet is doing far more for the planet than the EU in its construction of an ecological and productive society. The EU is parasitic and imperialist, it depends on exploiting low wages globally in order to continue to exist, which is why it’s falling into chaos and to the far right as their superprofits are drying up. The EU is parasitic and is far more damaging to the world than China because they depend on consumption of other countries without producing much at all themselves.