• QueenHawlSera@piefed.social
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    19 days ago

    I made a catholic friend who had me convinced that maybe there was something to Christianity. It was an illusion, there is no God, and all religion does is convince you to hurt yourself and others under the delusion that an imaginary invisible man in the sky will make it up to you in the afterlife.

    But the truth is there is no afterlife, neurology has completely debunked the idea of a soul.

    Sucks, I really wish there was an afterlife, but this is all we get. All spirituality is, is longing for an afterlife where you get a spirit guide and super powers… It’s nonsense, you wait for it and you’ll waste your only time with which you will ever get to exist.

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      19 days ago

      I miss the concept of an afterlife the most, when some shithead like Lindsey Graham assumes room temperature. I would love to feel the satisfaction of knowing they are being dragged to Hell in terror, but alas, I know that isn’t the case.

      I’m still pleased they are gone, and can’t do any more destruction, but my schadenfreude is somewhat limited.

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        3 days ago

        We have functioning senses and the ability to reason.

        No god has ever been demonstrated. Why should anyone believe in one? Same with souls.

        As for the guilt-based manipulation towards violence, source: the bible. Source: history. Source: ICE executing people in the streets without trial as an arm of a christofascist regime, the “department of war” praying to the christian god for overwhelming violence against their enemies, etc.

        Please stop ignoring the flaws. Stop pretending there’s a magic abuser in the sky we all must submit to. It is psychotic. It is killing us.

        • root@lemmy.wtf
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          3 days ago

          Pope Leo XIV has condemned ICE and the fascist american regime.

          God has performed a multitude of miracles

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            Pope Leo XIV has condemned ICE and the fascist american regime.

            And gay people, and abortions.

            God has performed a multitude of miracles

            But none we can verify? Why doesn’t he want us to believe in him? Surely it would be trivial for an all-powerful being to demonstrate his existence. All we have instead is humans saying “trust me, bro.” No.

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                3 days ago

                He has condemned the sin of homosexuality and the sin of murder.

                Sin isn’t real. He’s condemning homosexuals while pretending to care.

                The Schachles were certain their prayers to Father McGivney resulted in God curing their son of the condition that almost certainly would have killed him before he was born or shortly after.

                Lucky! Not magic.

                After assuring the record is in the proper canonical form, it is reviewed by a panel of medical experts, practicing physicians and medical professors in Rome, who aren’t necessarily religious, Caulfield said. With their review complete, “one day in Rome, they get together and cast their votes. Is this a miracle or not, can we explain this or not,” Caulfield said.

                Truth is not decided by vote.

                Do we have any insight as to how they determined, medically, that a miracle had taken place? Or is it another black box that the church suspiciously does not want to share the contents of?

                It’s a complicated condition: https://biologyinsights.com/what-affects-the-hydrops-fetalis-survival-rate/

                The survival rate for hydrops fetalis is highly variable. Overall, the prognosis can be poor, with historical survival rates often cited as low as 10-20%. However, advancements in diagnosis and treatment have led to improvements in outcomes. Despite progress, the condition still carries significant risks of stillbirth or death shortly after birth.

                I would be curious to know more about his particular case.

                As for the scales:

                the Vatican’s Consulta Medica confirmed the cure was instantaneous, complete, lasting, and scientifically inexplicable.

                Where is this evidence?

                the biological impossibility of genetic reversal is the forensic core.

                I would love to see evidence that this is what happened.

                It’s also a known phenomenon: https://scienceinsights.org/do-genes-change-over-time-what-actually-happens/

                Because epigenetic marks are added and removed by enzymes, lifestyle changes can push them in the other direction. In a randomized controlled trial, an 8-week program combining dietary changes, 30 minutes of daily exercise, sleep optimization, and twice-daily relaxation breathing was associated with a 3.23-year decrease in epigenetic age compared to the control group. That’s a measurable reversal of biological aging in just two months.

                As for the heat she felt, that is a common symptom of her condition, the thick skin is less efficient at releasing sweat. I find it an interesting case, but I am still not convinced a miracle took place.

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                  3 days ago

                  sin is real

                  The miraculous cure is yet to be explained. Genes don’t suddenly change in a moment. And the voice? It perfectly lined up with the heat.

                  And a committee of researchers vote on something being a miracle or not, that’s rational as a council of researchers should be determining if somethings explained by modern science or not

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                    sin is real

                    It’s not. Bring an argument instead of asserting bullshit with no evidence.

                    The miraculous cure is yet to be explained. Genes don’t suddenly change in a moment. And the voice? It perfectly lined up with the heat.

                    Heatstroke is my first guess. I would love to get more information on her case. Are there ongoing studies? When will they be published?

                    And a committee of researchers vote on something being a miracle or not, that’s rational as a council of researchers should be determining if somethings explained by modern science or not

                    No. What they should do is publish their findings in detail so that other researchers can verify.