Unfortunately, it’s a classic case of self-contradiction. Both old and new testaments are full of calls to openly and explicitly praising God.
Cases in point:
God instructing Joshua to have the Israelite army, led by priests carrying the Ark of the Covenant and blowing rams’ horns, march around the walled city of Jericho.
The Great Commission in Matthew 28:19–20: “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations…” and Mark 16:15: “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.”
I’m not christian, but that’s not really a contradiction. According to the bible the best case scenario is for you to proclaim your faith to others while truly following the scripture. The part you’re replying to just means that the “following the scripture” part is more important.
The part you’re replying to just means that the “following the scripture” part is more important.
The old testament is a constant call and refrain of prophets and kings denouncing a lack of piety, rallying the people to some triumphant reform, getting too comfortable, abandoning piety, and collapsing the society. Sometimes you get this cycle in a single generation. Other times it is used - for instance, with King David - to explain how sins of the patriarch doom the kingdom centuries later.
So much of scripture is people not following scripture and reconciling with the consequences. And then new people coming in to reaffirm and reform the old laws.
8 I desire therefore that the men in every place pray, lifting up holy hands without anger and doubting.
Bonus sexism later in the same chapter:
11 Let a woman learn in quietness with full submission. 12 But I don’t permit a woman to teach, nor to exercise authority over a man, but to be in quietness.
Keeping in mind this duty of love, and building on the preceding verse (21) that introduces this passage in Ephesians—“Be subject to one another out of reverence for Christ”— John Paul II interpreted these passages slightly differently: in a context of “mutual submission.”
Although there’s an apparent contradiction in such language, since two people or things can’t be “put under” each other in the same respect, in this understanding we can interpret submission not as an ordering of authority but as the mutual regard and self-giving love that both husband and wife must practice in marriage. Paul is simply expressing that idea in two different ways, corresponding to the analogy of marriage with the relationship between Christ and his Church.
also, the first verse is just calling everyone in the world to pray
Why does Eve get the blame for the snake’s lie when both she and Adam agreed to eat the fruit?
Why are women expected to be submissive to their husbands? You disgustingly pretend it’s a two-way street, but it’s not. The bible disproportionately favors men.
12 The man said, “The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”
13 Yahweh God said to the woman, “What have you done?”
16 To the woman he said,
“I will greatly multiply your pain in childbirth.
You will bear children in pain.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”
17 To Adam he said,
“Because you have listened to your wife’s voice,
Explicitly, Eve gets the blame, and Adam is chastised for listening to a woman.
Its a two way street
No, it is not. The old testament includes many laws for women that do not apply to men, such as being compelled to marry their rapist.
1 Peter 3:
In the same way, wives, be in subjection to your own husbands, so that, even if any don’t obey the Word, they may be won by the behavior of their wives without a word, 2 seeing your pure behavior in fear.
Does he mention husbands in the same chapter? Why, yes! And it confirms that women are inferior:
You husbands, in the same way, live with your wives according to knowledge, giving honor to the woman as to the weaker vessel
Stop ignoring misogyny. Stop serving a death cult.
Church doctrine and tradition
But it has always been wrong. So why does it continue?
they werent
They were. They were bought and sold. Non-virgins were treated like defective goods.
The more you defend the heinous shit, the more intolerable you reveal yourself to be.
Unfortunately, it’s a classic case of self-contradiction. Both old and new testaments are full of calls to openly and explicitly praising God.
Cases in point:
God instructing Joshua to have the Israelite army, led by priests carrying the Ark of the Covenant and blowing rams’ horns, march around the walled city of Jericho.
The Great Commission in Matthew 28:19–20: “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations…” and Mark 16:15: “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.”
I’m not christian, but that’s not really a contradiction. According to the bible the best case scenario is for you to proclaim your faith to others while truly following the scripture. The part you’re replying to just means that the “following the scripture” part is more important.
How does anyone follow a scripture that contradicts itself?
The old testament is a constant call and refrain of prophets and kings denouncing a lack of piety, rallying the people to some triumphant reform, getting too comfortable, abandoning piety, and collapsing the society. Sometimes you get this cycle in a single generation. Other times it is used - for instance, with King David - to explain how sins of the patriarch doom the kingdom centuries later.
So much of scripture is people not following scripture and reconciling with the consequences. And then new people coming in to reaffirm and reform the old laws.
it really isnt
do not brag about your prayer, thus staying away from pride
but help as many people as you can physically and spiritually
1 Timothy 2:
Bonus sexism later in the same chapter:
Keeping in mind this duty of love, and building on the preceding verse (21) that introduces this passage in Ephesians—“Be subject to one another out of reverence for Christ”— John Paul II interpreted these passages slightly differently: in a context of “mutual submission.”
Although there’s an apparent contradiction in such language, since two people or things can’t be “put under” each other in the same respect, in this understanding we can interpret submission not as an ordering of authority but as the mutual regard and self-giving love that both husband and wife must practice in marriage. Paul is simply expressing that idea in two different ways, corresponding to the analogy of marriage with the relationship between Christ and his Church.
also, the first verse is just calling everyone in the world to pray
Absolute bullshit. The bible is relentlessly misogynistic.
I just showed you how it is not
No, you didn’t.
Why does Eve get the blame for the snake’s lie when both she and Adam agreed to eat the fruit?
Why are women expected to be submissive to their husbands? You disgustingly pretend it’s a two-way street, but it’s not. The bible disproportionately favors men.
Why can’t women preach?
Why were daughters considered property?
Fucking liar.
Genesis 3:
Explicitly, Eve gets the blame, and Adam is chastised for listening to a woman.
No, it is not. The old testament includes many laws for women that do not apply to men, such as being compelled to marry their rapist.
1 Peter 3:
Does he mention husbands in the same chapter? Why, yes! And it confirms that women are inferior:
Stop ignoring misogyny. Stop serving a death cult.
But it has always been wrong. So why does it continue?
They were. They were bought and sold. Non-virgins were treated like defective goods.
The more you defend the heinous shit, the more intolerable you reveal yourself to be.