Who the fuck gives Anthropic the right to use all that training data for their model?! And if other companies distill their models, THEY are to be protected by laws?! Cry me a fucking river.
And don’t even get started on how he says that China is a represive regime (which it is) while leaving the US as it it wasn’t. Like they won’t “CCP” the fuck out of the population using Anthropic’s models.
No idea. The whole copyright topic is a clusterfuck when it comes to LLMs. The matter of the fact is: most AI companies steal data to train their models and they don’t care about licenses or copyrights.
Copyright started out in the USA at 14 years plus another optional 14 year extension. I am going by my memory here.
The purpose of the law was to balance public and private interests.
The public benefits from uninhibited copying. Private interests benefit from a monopoly on copying. The law at first recognized both of those interests as legitimate, which is why copyrights were relatively short at first.
Then the rich companies like Disney lobbied the govrnment to change all that.
Now copyright is something like lifetime of an author (who can be a corporation and does not even need to be a human) plus something like 150 years, plus/minus.
Basically the interests of the public were tossed out the window.
The public libraries were and still are the bullwark providing free access to copies, but the private interests hate the libraries too.
I don’t want the artists to starve. Right now the biggest holders, abusers and beneficiaries of the heinously immoral (as it currently stands) copyright regime are the giant gorporations, not the starving artists.
Plus, now a new crop of giant corporations decided to ignore copyright that was recently serving primarily other giant corporations. I hate all of them, and all of IT. Fuck them all.
Copyright law needs a reform now.
10 year term, no extensions.
Can only be owned by the actual humans and never the legal entities. One exception is an estate of a human who passed on suddenly, who may hold the copyright for the benefit of the author’s family.
No sales or transfers permitted.
All licensing is mandatorily non-exclusive to prevent the giant corps from hoarding rights by forcing the authors to give them exclusivity. Basically an author should always be able to make new deals, full stop.
So in summary, center the human author, and balance the public and the private iterests.
And while we wait, harrrr, harrr, harrr, sail the high seas.
P.S. Fashion is one form of creative output not covered by any monopoly protection. The fashion industry is doing fine.
In most countries, the output of a single prompt will not be copyrightable. However, once someone starts arranging the output into something more, then copyright can be applied.
Overall, it depends on the country, but in some they are asking their legislators for clarification. Many are trying to apply pre-existing copyright laws to LLMs.
Yes, as the other commenter said, in most jurisdictions (i think China is the only exception?), generative AI outputs (this covers more than LLMs, like diffusers and other modern image generators) are not eligible for copyright. However, while a human made arrangement of the outputs gets copyright protection, in the US at least, it is a very narrow scope of protection, literally only a direct copy/paste of large swaths, and doesn’t extend to the individual AI generated components.
There’s nothing else they could say. They have to justify the hundreds of billions of dollars that have been poured into this thing. Anything less than world domination and complete control will make it impossible to ever make up for all that money.
AI is great (sometimes), but the centralized command-and-control cloud model is not. It needs to die. So we should all use the opensource models and ditch the hyperscalers.
I agree. I’m an open source maxi and go out of my way to only use open source models.
And I don’t mean open weight models, I mean fully open source models where you also have access to the training data and checkpoints and stuff like that. In my opinion, go open source or GTFO.
This guy is full of shit.
Let me rephrase his points:
Who the fuck gives Anthropic the right to use all that training data for their model?! And if other companies distill their models, THEY are to be protected by laws?! Cry me a fucking river.
And don’t even get started on how he says that China is a represive regime (which it is) while leaving the US as it it wasn’t. Like they won’t “CCP” the fuck out of the population using Anthropic’s models.
Hasn’t the output from LLM already been ruled ineligible for copyright protection?
No idea. The whole copyright topic is a clusterfuck when it comes to LLMs. The matter of the fact is: most AI companies steal data to train their models and they don’t care about licenses or copyrights.
“The whole copyright topic is a clusterfuck”, full stop.
Except for use in llm
Copyright should not exist
Are you for real?
Copyright exists so that corporations can extract profit from their “intellectual property” by restricting other people’s free creative expression.
Do you know any artists trying to make a living?
Copyright started out in the USA at 14 years plus another optional 14 year extension. I am going by my memory here.
The purpose of the law was to balance public and private interests.
The public benefits from uninhibited copying. Private interests benefit from a monopoly on copying. The law at first recognized both of those interests as legitimate, which is why copyrights were relatively short at first.
Then the rich companies like Disney lobbied the govrnment to change all that.
Now copyright is something like lifetime of an author (who can be a corporation and does not even need to be a human) plus something like 150 years, plus/minus.
Basically the interests of the public were tossed out the window.
The public libraries were and still are the bullwark providing free access to copies, but the private interests hate the libraries too.
I don’t want the artists to starve. Right now the biggest holders, abusers and beneficiaries of the heinously immoral (as it currently stands) copyright regime are the giant gorporations, not the starving artists.
Plus, now a new crop of giant corporations decided to ignore copyright that was recently serving primarily other giant corporations. I hate all of them, and all of IT. Fuck them all.
Copyright law needs a reform now.
So in summary, center the human author, and balance the public and the private iterests.
And while we wait, harrrr, harrr, harrr, sail the high seas.
P.S. Fashion is one form of creative output not covered by any monopoly protection. The fashion industry is doing fine.
In most countries, the output of a single prompt will not be copyrightable. However, once someone starts arranging the output into something more, then copyright can be applied.
Overall, it depends on the country, but in some they are asking their legislators for clarification. Many are trying to apply pre-existing copyright laws to LLMs.
The U.S. Copyright Office wrote up a report about this and included a list of how other countries are handling it.
https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-2-Copyrightability-Report.pdf
Yes, as the other commenter said, in most jurisdictions (i think China is the only exception?), generative AI outputs (this covers more than LLMs, like diffusers and other modern image generators) are not eligible for copyright. However, while a human made arrangement of the outputs gets copyright protection, in the US at least, it is a very narrow scope of protection, literally only a direct copy/paste of large swaths, and doesn’t extend to the individual AI generated components.
There’s nothing else they could say. They have to justify the hundreds of billions of dollars that have been poured into this thing. Anything less than world domination and complete control will make it impossible to ever make up for all that money.
AI is great (sometimes), but the centralized command-and-control cloud model is not. It needs to die. So we should all use the opensource models and ditch the hyperscalers.
I agree. I’m an open source maxi and go out of my way to only use open source models.
And I don’t mean open weight models, I mean fully open source models where you also have access to the training data and checkpoints and stuff like that. In my opinion, go open source or GTFO.