• boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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    3 days ago

    Humans aren’t precious because there’s like 8 billion of us. 300 years ago it was probably more like 600-700 million (highest estimates around a billion) and it took more humans to achieve less work.

    Under capitalism, more people means cheaper workforce because more competition between workers. Individual worker is valued less. Under communism you don’t put a dollar figure on a human the same way, but they’re still more expendable when you can just get another one to do the same job.

    I’m not advocating for mass genocide or eugenics, I’m just saying that’s how it is and we better get used to it. Things are precious when they’re scarce. We’re not scarce.

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      2 days ago

      No one is forcing you to feel that humans are or are not precious and this argument is very troubling…

      If you cannot see why, please seek help.

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        2 days ago

        I thought we were talking about society, i.e a collection of 8 billion humans, and how it values each of those 8 billion humans, not me personally.

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          2 days ago

          Ahh, well maybe lead with this isn’t what I believe rather than a strong statement lol.

          Anyways yes what you said is a correct assessment of where we are, but not where we have to be.

          All I’m saying is society has devalued and dehumanized itself.

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        2 days ago

        Dude gave arguments for the PoV he presented and all you give back is sentimental approach coupled with accusation xD

        Truth is, humanity always perceived value of other humans by the filter of what can they do. Capitalism, communism, no matter - it still holds it.

        Even in small communities a lazy, drunk neigbour is gonna be seen as barely worth anything coupled to industrious, hard working neighbour. We just are like this. All humans are innately egoistic to some degree and they perceive value of others through what they can gain from them.

        Few folk are empathetic enough to perceive every single person as precious, yet even they crumble in certain scenarios, mostly connected to estimating worth of people who inconvienience them and their family.