It’s not don’t trust me bro lol. You are welcome to read the data yourself. The problem is you likely do not have the prerequisite knowledge to understand it.
You don’t need to become a scientist, just trust the good ones.
As a concept in particular. That is very much “trust me bro.”
I’m not sure what studies in particular say “you should trust ‘experts’ unquestioningly bro,” so I have a sneaking suspicion you’re referring to the thing I said I wasn’t talking about specifically EIGHT TIMES NOW. Sorry I had to get loud, but it seems nobody can hear around here.
Now, accepting that this vaccine was created in a joint effort by Jesus, Muhammed, and YHWH, OF COURSE it is unquestionable. HOWEVER: Everything ELSE in life, you can’t necessarily trust the experts LIKE YOU CAN ON THE HOLY ROMAN COVID VACCINE!! LOOK EVERYONE I’M SAYING IT’S THE BEST EVER, IT’S DELICIOUS I’M EATING ONE RIGHT NOW!!NN!!N
Hopefully I’ve signaled my unquestioning loyalty on THIS TOPIC well enough to make you realize other things exist? Have I bowed enough that we can have an actual conversation now?
Bro what the fuck are you talking about. The studies demonstrating the safety and efficacy of the vaccines are available to read. If they are pay walled go to a library or university.
I’ve only said it eight times already, will the ninth really make the difference? I’m sorry dude I just don’t think you have the capacity, if you can’t figure out “what the fuck I’m talking about” from the thirty comments I’ve left in this thread already then this is a lost cause, if you do end up deciphering the cryptex then get back to me ig, or don’t who cares.
Talking about pulling teeth. Dude you’re super annoying and seem to deliberately misunderstand comments. You’re right, it’s not ‘good SOP’ to blindly trust based on what a government is saying, but no one is stating that.
There is a point where the collective scientific community at large has consensus on a topic, with the ability to ignore a single government, entity, or political movement where it becomes believable. With the COVID vaccines we have passed that point by a very large margin.
But you keep banging on about how scientific (almost complete) consensus the same as some random idiot from the US government saying ‘trust me bro’. That’s a false equivalence and I think you know it.
Tenth time repeating myself gonna do it? Will you finally understand that I’m talking about the attitude of “just trusting people in general,” not specifically the best vaccine ever that was made by Christ himself which of course we all love and take one every day.
The fact that you’re physically incapable of divorcing the two concepts is frankly not my fault.
There is a point where the collective scientific community at large has consensus on a topic
Yes yes and scientists have never been collectively wrong about anything and “the science” has never changed based on new information, they’re always right even when they’re wrong.
You’re hopeless, just keep trusting, drive the cybertruck, take the oxycontin, lick the radium paintbrushes, you’ll be fine, trust me bro.
But it is! Do you trust the food you eat? Who knows what could happen… If you take any medications at all, you must trust in some part the whole supply chain. If you drive a car, especially a new model, you trust the designers, engineers, and QA to make something that won’t kill you. Do you fly? Do you enter your banking or financial info into any computer?
I’m not saying we should blindly trust anyone, especially not a single person, but we have to trust the experts at least some, in every field. And when those experts all basically agree… What else is there to do? Or society is built on trust.
No, it’s all full of microplastics and chemicals and Monsanto scientific horrors. I still have to eat, but I know it’s killing me slowly. You shouldn’t trust that any more than your scammy mechanic.
If you take any medications at all, you must trust in some part the whole supply chain.
Yeah medications never have unintended side effects that come out years later, and nobody has ever put potassium cyanide in Aspirin bottles, great example.
If you drive a car, especially a new model, you trust the designers, engineers, and QA to make something that won’t kill you
Yeah like a Tesla, huh? New as hell, burning people alive in crashes. Recalls happen all the time, and often don’t when they should, you’re sure there won’t be one for yours?
Do you fly?
Hell no.
Do you enter your banking or financial info into any computer?
Very limited, never stored, one device I don’t do anything sketchy on. Usually I just go to the bank, like, the building.
Even people who aren’t lying to you may be wrong, it can happen at any level of knowledge or expertise.
And just to remind you, I’m not talking about “vaccines,” I’m talking about “just trust me bro” w.r.t most things.
I think everyone should have a critical mind about anything that matters. I’m not comfortable blindly trusting things either, but… we can only do our best and can’t be an expert in everything. We have to trust to some extent.
Of course it can go wrong, if it couldn’t, we wouldn’t be using the word “trust.” That said, not getting a Tesla anytime soon…
But yes, I trust the medicine I buy to not have cyanide in it, I’m not going to run a lab to make sure it doesn’t. If I buy medicine I have to trust it, the alternative is insanity. Thank goodness for the tamper evident seals! “You mean the ones you can bypass in a way that’s undetectable?” Yes, of course they’re not perfect but… I still gotta trust it and the whole supply chain if I want my ibuprofen, and it’s better than nothing.
Point taken for the rest of your examples, sorry, not going point by point.
Last thing, I just wanna make it clear yeah there’s a difference in “just trust me bro” from one expert no matter who they are, and trusting widespread expert consensus (and that goes for anything, and yes I recognize consensus can be wrong too okay).
So… I am supposed to know not to trust the covid vaccine and also blind trust is good?
Is that what you mean by backwards?
Cause I said “I don’t necessarily think [skepticism] is the best course of action regarding this current topic which is the covid vaccine, but blindly trusting people regardless of expertise isn’t always the best thing to do.”
“Backwards” of that would be… y’know… trust everyone except this vaccine… so… ?
Care to elaborate?
Edit: OH did you mean like this?
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That’s the neat thing, scientists from all around the globe are saying the same thing. No need to trust your gvmt.
It’s not don’t trust me bro lol. You are welcome to read the data yourself. The problem is you likely do not have the prerequisite knowledge to understand it.
May I remind you that I’m responding to:
As a concept in particular. That is very much “trust me bro.”
I’m not sure what studies in particular say “you should trust ‘experts’ unquestioningly bro,” so I have a sneaking suspicion you’re referring to the thing I said I wasn’t talking about specifically EIGHT TIMES NOW. Sorry I had to get loud, but it seems nobody can hear around here.
Now, accepting that this vaccine was created in a joint effort by Jesus, Muhammed, and YHWH, OF COURSE it is unquestionable. HOWEVER: Everything ELSE in life, you can’t necessarily trust the experts LIKE YOU CAN ON THE HOLY ROMAN COVID VACCINE!! LOOK EVERYONE I’M SAYING IT’S THE BEST EVER, IT’S DELICIOUS I’M EATING ONE RIGHT NOW!!NN!!N
Hopefully I’ve signaled my unquestioning loyalty on THIS TOPIC well enough to make you realize other things exist? Have I bowed enough that we can have an actual conversation now?
Bro what the fuck are you talking about. The studies demonstrating the safety and efficacy of the vaccines are available to read. If they are pay walled go to a library or university.
Jesus fucking Christ. Pulling goddamn teeth.
I’ve only said it eight times already, will the ninth really make the difference? I’m sorry dude I just don’t think you have the capacity, if you can’t figure out “what the fuck I’m talking about” from the thirty comments I’ve left in this thread already then this is a lost cause, if you do end up deciphering the cryptex then get back to me ig, or don’t who cares.
Talking about pulling teeth. Dude you’re super annoying and seem to deliberately misunderstand comments. You’re right, it’s not ‘good SOP’ to blindly trust based on what a government is saying, but no one is stating that.
There is a point where the collective scientific community at large has consensus on a topic, with the ability to ignore a single government, entity, or political movement where it becomes believable. With the COVID vaccines we have passed that point by a very large margin.
But you keep banging on about how scientific (almost complete) consensus the same as some random idiot from the US government saying ‘trust me bro’. That’s a false equivalence and I think you know it.
Tenth time repeating myself gonna do it? Will you finally understand that I’m talking about the attitude of “just trusting people in general,” not specifically the best vaccine ever that was made by Christ himself which of course we all love and take one every day.
The fact that you’re physically incapable of divorcing the two concepts is frankly not my fault.
Yes yes and scientists have never been collectively wrong about anything and “the science” has never changed based on new information, they’re always right even when they’re wrong.
You’re hopeless, just keep trusting, drive the cybertruck, take the oxycontin, lick the radium paintbrushes, you’ll be fine, trust me bro.
But it is! Do you trust the food you eat? Who knows what could happen… If you take any medications at all, you must trust in some part the whole supply chain. If you drive a car, especially a new model, you trust the designers, engineers, and QA to make something that won’t kill you. Do you fly? Do you enter your banking or financial info into any computer?
I’m not saying we should blindly trust anyone, especially not a single person, but we have to trust the experts at least some, in every field. And when those experts all basically agree… What else is there to do? Or society is built on trust.
For some.
No, it’s all full of microplastics and chemicals and Monsanto scientific horrors. I still have to eat, but I know it’s killing me slowly. You shouldn’t trust that any more than your scammy mechanic.
Yeah medications never have unintended side effects that come out years later, and nobody has ever put potassium cyanide in Aspirin bottles, great example.
Yeah like a Tesla, huh? New as hell, burning people alive in crashes. Recalls happen all the time, and often don’t when they should, you’re sure there won’t be one for yours?
Hell no.
Very limited, never stored, one device I don’t do anything sketchy on. Usually I just go to the bank, like, the building.
Even people who aren’t lying to you may be wrong, it can happen at any level of knowledge or expertise.
And just to remind you, I’m not talking about “vaccines,” I’m talking about “just trust me bro” w.r.t most things.
I think everyone should have a critical mind about anything that matters. I’m not comfortable blindly trusting things either, but… we can only do our best and can’t be an expert in everything. We have to trust to some extent.
Of course it can go wrong, if it couldn’t, we wouldn’t be using the word “trust.” That said, not getting a Tesla anytime soon…
But yes, I trust the medicine I buy to not have cyanide in it, I’m not going to run a lab to make sure it doesn’t. If I buy medicine I have to trust it, the alternative is insanity. Thank goodness for the tamper evident seals! “You mean the ones you can bypass in a way that’s undetectable?” Yes, of course they’re not perfect but… I still gotta trust it and the whole supply chain if I want my ibuprofen, and it’s better than nothing.
Point taken for the rest of your examples, sorry, not going point by point.
Last thing, I just wanna make it clear yeah there’s a difference in “just trust me bro” from one expert no matter who they are, and trusting widespread expert consensus (and that goes for anything, and yes I recognize consensus can be wrong too okay).
Whut? You got it all backwards I guess
So… I am supposed to know not to trust the covid vaccine and also blind trust is good?
Is that what you mean by backwards?
Cause I said “I don’t necessarily think [skepticism] is the best course of action regarding this current topic which is the covid vaccine, but blindly trusting people regardless of expertise isn’t always the best thing to do.”
“Backwards” of that would be… y’know… trust everyone except this vaccine… so… ?
Care to elaborate?
Edit: OH did you mean like this?