• Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Thank you for the needlessly wordy definition of lobbying, it still exists to create loyalty within the government. Idk why you’re trying so hard to let these groups off the hook for their share of the bad behavior.

    I get that you obviously want to appear Super Smart and superior, but you’re just wrong here.

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      I just don’t think it’s appropriate to say that Israel is controlling the USA, like the USA is some sort of victim. It’s like saying the finance department is controlling the company. It’s just a weird framing that leads to all sorts of misunderstandings. Israel isn’t controlling the USA. The USA and Israel are collaborators with the USA in the dominant position and Israel doing what it can to maintain its function within the empire against competing shared interests.

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        It’s completely appropriate when AIPAC is spending millions of dollars to influence elections. I don’t understand why you are being so dismissive of brazen interference by a foreign entity. The US is both a perpetrator and a victim. Is the wound self inflicted? Absolutely, but that doesn’t make it not interference.

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          THE US GAVE THAT MONEY TO AIPAC IN THE FIRST PLACE. AIPAC spending money is not foreign influence, it’s domestic influence. Israel is a domestic policy issue, not a foreign policy one. Israel is far closer to the status of Puerto Rico vis-a-vis the USA than it is to say France or Australia. It’s literally a vassal and a proxy without any possibility of existing independently of the USA. It’s a subdivision of US interests, not outside of US interests