An angry mob allegedly beat them. The police charged them. The municipality voted for one of the most severe anti-trans bathroom ordinances in the country.

An angry mob allegedly beat them. The police charged them. The municipality voted for one of the most severe anti-trans bathroom ordinances in the country.

  • PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.auEnglish
    74·
    10 days ago

    Bitch what do you think they’re doing? You think they can’t just make some shit up when its time? Please cut this victim blaming the fuck out.

    Good behavior will not save you. Making them afraid might.

      • isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        31·
        10 days ago

        Read more carefully.

        cmbabul basically said, “trans people shouldn’t defend themselves, as that would just embolden bigots.” Primecf pointed out that bigots will just make shit up, as Republicans do when they pretend every mass shooter is trans.

        cmbabul is demonstrating behavior found among some allies, where they nominally support trans rights, but get really uncomfortable with the idea of a minority group defending itself with lethal violence. Minorities are meant to be protected in a parental way by the majority. Minorities are not meant to have agency of their own, certainly not in the realm of self-defense.

        • VeganBtw@piefed.socialEnglish
          4·
          10 days ago

          Maybe that’s the subtext, but I don’t see how these two things can’t be true at once :

          1. The Heritage Foundation will spin any resistance as an attack.
          2. Let’s make them afraid.

          To me, both comments are compatible and don’t have a necessary contradiction.

        • cmbabul@slrpnk.net
          4·
          10 days ago

          That’s not at all what I said, they absolutely must arm and defend themselves, but it’s delusion to think the right will not use it as a cudgel to enact even more violence.

          Predicting the behavior of the enemy isn’t telling anyone they should or shouldn’t do anything.

    • cmbabul@slrpnk.net
      1·
      10 days ago

      Where did I ever say they shouldn’t defend themselves? Understanding what will happen next doesn’t equate with advocating they stand down and let themselves die.

      Literally everyone that ain’t a fascist should arm themselves and use those arms when their safety is in peril. Especially marginalized people. And if a fucking lynch mob is after anyone they should mow them down.

      But that’s not gonna happen in a vacuum and there will at least be an attempt to utilize that as a catalyst for even more violence upon trans people. Please tell me what you think the reaction by the right will be when something like that inevitably occurs?