Didn’t the US recently celebrate the 250th anniversary of genocides?
I didn’t realise there was an American Indian genocide, although I did hear a lot about an indigenous American genocide.
Polling of turtle island indigenous peoples indicate that a good majority still prefer the term Indians. You can read Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz All the real indians died off and 20 other myths for the reasons.
Genocide began well before independence from Britain.
Source for that 75% claim? Wondering how it’s calculated since I’ve heard ~90% died to plagues the settlers brought, but since 75% is below that it seems like it’s calculating something else. Is it referring to some specific time period?
It is possible 90% of certain tribes on the East Coast died of plague. However the vast majority of native Americans were slaughtered other ways.
Over what time period are we talking though?
Like the Wikipedia article says 10-100M and up to 95% died from plagues brought over from ~1500-1618, but I can’t tell if the sources are any good/reliable.
Does this count or does it mean that of those who remained, a further 75% got genocided? Or is it referring to some specific even later genocide.
If we’re talking about the time period from 1500 to 1618. Then we’re talking about the time. Where we’re looking at the islands we’re looking at Central America and South America during the Spanish and Portuguese take over those areas. And we’re looking at just the beginnings of the east coast in the continental United states. That doesn’t count for the tens of thousands of fries with millions of members across the rest of the continent. The slaughter of them came way way after that.
Things are much better in Germany. We have four genocide parties and one party with internal conflicts regarding genocide
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I had forgotten that the Democrats are also zionists.
Democrats like money as much as Republicans.
Noooo, you don’t understand. Biden tried really, really hard to not send 21 billion to Israel. Trump wanted to send aid! Big difference, tankie.
The purpose of this is not to make a comparison between two ill suited politicians (Trump being the far worse), but to erode trust in democratic institutions and to prevent you from even paying attention and voting. Nothing is stopping anyone from electing an independent politician, without red or blue affiliations.
The purpose of this is to mock people who believe that voting for the puppet on Wall St’s left hand is somehow a better deal than voting for the puppet on the right hand.
The thing eroding trust in Democratic institutions is the continual enshittification of life via Neoliberal policy that keeps on progressing regardless of which puppet won the most recent popularity contest.
The entire system and the entire billionaire owned media is absolutely stopping people from electing independent politicians, in any kind of numbers that might change anything.
How broken is your moral compass that you think supporting a genocide can ever be a lesser evil?
the us is not democratic. it’s a fascist empire. stop spreading cia propaganda.
You cannot overturn bourgeois rule using the bourgeois state.
Don’t forget the guillotine! Its high time to bring it around the many demonstrations being organised, don’t you think? :)
Nothing is stopping anyone from electing an independent politician
If you’re going to lie at least try to make it remotely believable
What makes you think I’m lying? I don’t know your ballot, but I’m pretty sure there is more than just two options there, no? And not just thr presidential ones.
You’re either lying or fantastically stupid
It is an admirable thing, in a politics possessed of a moral floor, to believe one can change the system from the inside, that with enough respectful prodding the establishment can be made to bend, like that famous arc, toward justice. But when, after decades of such thinking, decades of respectful prodding, the condition one arrives at is reticent acceptance of genocide, is it not at least worth considering that you are not changing the system nearly as much as the system is changing you?
— Omar El-Akkad, One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This
The literal two party system is stopping that. Are you new?
No simply not US American. Good luck out there!
unfortunately true. this whole gender issue has been used as a huuge distraction scheme from the economic situation and other urgent issues.
Yup just vote trump everytime. There is no difference anyways
Biden’s legacy will be that he was the butcher of Gaza. Who forced his administration to do this?
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long standing contracts
“Won’t someone think of the contractual obligations?? 😩😥”
long standing contracts
That graph he just posted kinda pokes some holes in this narrative that it’s just “long standing contracts” when there’s a massive increase in aid during his term.
There’s also the reality that you lot tend to ignore/deny which is that Biden bypassed congress to send additional weapons.
And you describe the US as “the biggest weapon manufacturer in the world” as though that somehow makes it better instead of worse. We’re already producing ridiculous numbers of bombs, and then we’re sending even more bombs to arm a genocide, and that’s somehow OK?
It’s so ridiculous. All the US is doing is having Israel do it’s dirty work so it has plausible deniability that rubes and partisan hacks can hide behind.
We evolve from “I’m just doing my job” to “I’m just doing my contractual obligations”. Shut the fuck up cancer.
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See the graph is specifically about aid explicitly not buying/selling. Without this aid Israel could not survive not to mind perpetrate it’s many many horrors and atrocities against the people of Palestine, Lebanon, Iran etc.
If you want to be sarcastic or disengenous it’s best to pick one or the other both together just make you look like an arrogant fool.
That’s military aid not sales. Never mind that even selling weapons to a country engaging in genocide is complicity in the crime. US support under Biden was more than just military aid.
No one. And since trump is more open everyonr should vote for him right? If not him than whatever republican is on right?
You think that graph is some kind of gotcha as if that is the only or most important event happening on the planet. Its not in any sense. Bidens legacy will be “better than trump by any metric” and yes that includes zionist support.
All youre doing is helping israel with this. But do keep telling us why we should vote for the most extreme because there is no difference
Who say the word vote idiot? Who say vote for Trump? Kill them both useless trash.
You and your country deserve to burn for your pro genocidal takes.
Your daily reminder that BlueMAGA liberals don’t consider non Westerners human
Yes they are both exactly the same. They both started the same number of wars. They both imposed the same amount of tariffs. They both dismantled the institutions in the same way. They both enriched themselves completely equally. They both created the same anti immigrant/lgbtqia/abortion rules. They both fucked over the economy exactly the same.
The are completely the same. Don’t you see it? Everything you felt got worse under Trump is just your imagination because they are completely the same. So don’t vote at all because they are completely the same. Trust me. Just throw your vote away. Because they are completely the same. It doesn’t matter if the Republicans get another term because they are completely the same. Just give in to your despair and do nothing. Let the others handle it because it doesn’t matter because they are completely the same. Ignore all the date saying otherwise because I made meme that said they are completely the same. And that means they are completely the same.
And if they are not the same then the democrats are surely not perfect and that makes them worse than the Republicans. Don’t you see it if you make things only a little better it’s much worse than making everything worse because eat least that is consequent.
Looking as an outsider they are the same in terms of children killing. Foreign policy is pretty tight among parties it seems.
Only with liberalism can you reduce genocide into a bipartisan issue.
Of course you want your treats, you’d accept genocide and misery outside the western powers for it.
At least Biden made the trains run on time! 🥺
This analogy is made even more apt by the way Mussolini tried to make the trains run on time, namely through breaking strikes and busting unions, which Biden did too! Funny coincidence.
thing about genocide is: it is so many units of measure worse than all other things you mentioned that all the other stuff is a dot.
stop giving in to genocide because your guy is slightly better to some cohort of folks than the other guy.
You misunderstand me. I am agreeing with you. Voting would have been just as bad as Hitler.
Because we both know that both bombed the same number of people to death in Iran including women and children. It’s crystal clear that both have destroyed the same number of boats that were allegedly drug boats. They literally have put the same number of immigrant children in cages. I counted them myself. Didn’t you know that Biden also wanted to build hotels in Gaza. It’s crazy that they are so much the same.
I just want to protect everyone from even considering there could be a worse choice and that they might vote and make things less bad. It’s such a strong message to not vote. We all know that when we don’t vote we get the secret third candidate who is actually the best person in the world and they will end all the suffering and make everything good again. We just have to convince everyone.
no wonder your country is so disgusting, you commit so many genocides your memory span is fucked by all the atrocities.
Interesting. Who forced the Biden administration to do this?
Yes exactly. Don’t you see that I am agreeing with you. It would have been bad to even vote.
Because we both know that both bombed the same number of people to death in Iran including women and children. It’s crystal clear that both have destroyed the same number of boats that were allegedly drug boats. They literally have put the same number of immigrant children in cages. I counted them myself.
I just want to protect everyone from even considering there could be a worse choice and that they might vote and make things less bad. It’s such a strong message to not vote. We all know that when we don’t vote we get the secret third candidate who is actually the best person in the world and they will end all the suffering and make everything good again. We just have to convince everyone.
It’s not the same though, Biden clearly gave more aid to Israel than Trump.
The second wall of passive aggressive sarcasm is not more persuasive than the first
Take your pills and then get back to us.
You could have said all of that by saying “I don’t care about genocide, just don’t make me have to hear about it in the news” and saved us all a lot of time.
No you don’t understand. I wanted to say that they are exactly the same. And that I would be bad to even vote and taint our souls with that.
Because we both know that both bombed the same number of people to death in Iran including women and children. It’s crystal clear that both have destroyed the same number of boats that were allegedly drug boats.
I just want to protect everyone from even considering there could be a worse choice and that they might vote and make things less bad. It’s such a strong message to not vote. We all know that when we don’t vote we get the secret third candidate who is actually the best person in the world and they will end all the suffering and make everything good again. We just have to convince everyone.
You’re not beating the allegations here. But you are annoying as fuck, so if that’s what you’re going for, then bravo.
Bro just discovered sarcasm
Their 2nd day on the internet.
