• Ann Archy@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Is it really voluntary when you have no other recourse? When the circumstances of your life are so hopeless that is seems like the only option?

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      3 days ago

      Work at a gas station or go murder brown people for way more money and paid education?

      It’s a choice, a selfish one.

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        3 days ago

        Look, I get what you’re saying, and “I was only following orders” is also a choice, and one that you should get rightfully judged for, but let’s not pretend like creating circumstances where people find themselves uneducated and without life prospects isn’t a big recruitment vector for the military.

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          3 days ago

          Yeah no shit, the military gives you incentives to be a Nazi, you choosing those incentives knowing you’re doing Nazi shit still makes you a Nazi, regardless of how you end up if you don’t choose to be a Nazi.

          What point are you making exactly? We don’t have to pretend like they had no other choice…

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            2 days ago

            I think we’re in agreement. I don’t think there’s a contention at this point. Talking out loud about your thoughts on things with others is a constructive way to vet your own beliefs and preconceptions, when there is pushback you reevaluate. Reevaluate. It’s a word. Look!

            reevaluate verb Revise or renew one’s assessment.

            I wanted to say re-evaluate, but reevaluate is actually proper, and saves me a dash.

            Anyway, I am glad we agree.

    • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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      3 days ago

      If your options are to murder innocent people or to die, then lie down and get comfortable. But I have a feeling that while you are waiting, other options will occur to you.