• Lumidaub@feddit.org
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    13 hours ago

    Judging from the fact that they say “over there”, they are of that rare type of people who don’t live in the US.

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      10 hours ago

      I picked up on that. But my premise stands if they are that passionate that they feel the need to direct others to endanger themselves, then they should try to take some direct action.

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        9 hours ago

        How do you expect us to influence US politics, directly at that, from the outside exactly?

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          9 hours ago

          Donating to political parties, lobbying for your interests etc.

          But telling Americans to attack our fellow countrymen or endanger our livelihoods isn’t going to inspire us. Just like an American directing you to attack yours would likely not work either.

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            7 hours ago

            our fellow countrymen

            Such kind words… guess you voted for him.

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              6 hours ago

              Facts might be uncomfortable and hard to swallow… but they are Americans.

              We may not agree with them and abhor their policies but they are our fellow countrymen. The rest of the world certainly sees them that way.

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                4 hours ago

                The rest of the world certainly sees them that way.

                If you say so…

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                  3 hours ago

                  Are you stating that the rest of the world doesn’t see Trump, JD Vance, Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth as Americans? If not what country do they associate them with?

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            9 hours ago

            I’m supposed to donate to political parties of a country I don’t live in and am not a citizen of? What?

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              8 hours ago

              Perhaps you can adopt that same attitude when telling citizens of another country what to do?

              But talk is cheap.

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                4 hours ago

                As an American we fucked up and we shouldn’t require other countries to step up for us. We should do it ourselves. Sure it’s great to get support and all but we done fucked the pooch. It’s on us.

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                  3 hours ago

                  I never stated they should step up for us. Only if they are that excited about this subject they should take action rather than demanding and demeaning Americans to do so.

                  An American posting similar comments to foreigners on their internal politics would be equally less well received.

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                7 hours ago

                What “same attitude”?

                Mate. The mess in the US is affecting everyone. EVERYONE on Earth. So we reserve the right to tell you to fucking get your shit straightened out already because unfortunately we cannot call the police on you when you burn tires in your front yard and blast your music and fire your guns at bottles and bother your neighbours for sugar at 2 in the morning and demand that people pay a toll when they cross the bridge 5 streets over.

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                  6 hours ago

                  The mess in the US is affecting everyone. EVERYONE on Earth.

                  So why aren’t you doing anything?

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                    6 hours ago

                    I keep asking what we’re supposed to do from the outside. I cannot walk over to the US’s house and into the US’s living room and turn off the music and tell them to go the fuck to sleep it is 2 am on a work day and they’re keeping the entire street awake. I’d probably be shot.