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time2lose@lemmy.world to Not The Onion@lemmy.worldEnglish · 5 hours ago

Germany plans sugar tax that includes sugar free drinks

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Germany plans sugar tax that includes sugar free drinks

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time2lose@lemmy.world to Not The Onion@lemmy.worldEnglish · 5 hours ago
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Pure milk and 100 per cent fruit juices would remain exempt.
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    Artificial sweeteners are arguibly often worse than sugar

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      If you drink 3000+ cans of diet a day you will approach the lower limit of what’s considered safe.

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        Weird comment knowing how little we know about artificial sweeteners and it’s long term impact on the body. Actually, quite dangerous comment.

        But you can start here; https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/sugar-substitutes-new-cardiovascular-concerns

        Or here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40902134/

        Or here; https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10465821/

        Also fun fact about sorbitol; https://source.washu.edu/2025/11/alternative-sweetener-sorbitol-linked-to-liver-disease/

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          Oh come now, none of these articles even address the risk of sand mites or magnetic resonance.

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            Am I on reddit?

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          Not all artificial sweeteners are the same, so it’s borderline meaningless to say we “know so little” about them.

          Hell, aspartame is literally the most studied food additive in the history of the FDA, and has never been shown to have any adverse effects in any reputable study.

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            and has never been shown to have any adverse effects in any reputable study.

            Again, dangerous comment. Please actually spend a minute looking around before making such bizzare claims.

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8373935/

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23097267/

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24700203/

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35324894/

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36638072/

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39547074/

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41765137/

            There are like 30 other studies showing negative effects in mice and rats.

            EDIT: Accidentally gave one bad study (see comment below), removed it. Rest seem valid.

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              I just opened up the last link and it took me 5 seconds to find this:

              Rats that had received aspartame (1000 mg/kg b.wt.)

              One liter of coke zero has 240mg of aspartame.

              https://juiceradvices.com/how-much-aspartame-is-in-coke-zero/

              1000mg per kg would mean, in a human with, let’s say 80kg, we’d need 80000mg to replicate the study case.

              Since we - usually - don’t eat pure aspartame, that would mean you’d need to chug 333.33 liters of diet coke per day to replicate the aspartame intake of the rats in the study.

              These studies are so far off of reality that I barely know where to begin.

            • TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              I asked chatGPT and it said not to believe you because your links won’t even open

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                The links open, champ.

                • TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  Nope I just tried again, chatGPT said they won’t open

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                    Why would ChatGPT even enter into the picture?

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      Last I remember it lowers the body’s tolerance to sugar which increases how much food people eat overall.

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      And the fructose in fruit juice isn’t “healthy” in any way. Even though it doesn’t hit insulin, it does the liver, and the caloric impact is the same.

      https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/abundance-of-fructose-not-good-for-the-liver-heart

      Why do all these bills always amount to “fuck whatever it is poor people eat”?

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        The fructose isn’t, but fruit juices contain a bunch of other important elements. Moderate intake of orange juice (1/2l per day) has been proven to be beneficial.

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          So if we added some vitamins to Coca Cola, should we drop the tax?

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