• explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    Local communities are so much better than higher power that you needed to stretch for anecdotal evidence from the 20th century.

    More lighthouses are being destroyed by the climate change that the Army defends and creates directly.

    Gee thanks for the government, without it one lighthouse might have collapsed eventually.

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      But if in one community you don’t have anyone that has a sufficient level of expertise for some area or another, that might lead it to collapse into pseudoscience and bad decisions. I don’t mean that you need a central authority, but you for sure need local authorities in X or Y question inside every cell of the federation.

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        A concentrated community of Right-wing libertarians/Anarcho-capitalists are destined to destroy themselves if they attain any sort of power, as they follow the Ayn Rand school of selfishness to the extreme. Grafton, NH isn’t far off from how Bioshock explored the same ideas and how it would lead to societal collapse.

        left wing libertarainism/Anarchism, on the other hand, is mainly collectivist, and we have well documented examples of that political theory working extremely well when put into practice.

        1936 Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War organized an Anarchist society with over 3 million participants, and they documented much of how exactly they ran it, right down to how they kept the electric trams for public transport going (there is a fantastic book embedded at the bottom of that article, Collectives in the Spanish Revolution by Gaston Leval, which offers more details on other aspects of how they operated that society).

        It’s a fantastic historical event we can learn from and build upon.

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        Libertarians aren’t the brightest bunch to begin with, but regardless, saying “look at this community that was wrong” in response to people wanting to remove central authority is not really an argument against the idea.

        The entire point is that people are free to govern themselves. Governing well is up to the local communities. Some would do better than others, certainly. But with time, people would discover what works and what doesn’t. They would make mistakes like these and learn from the natural consequences of their actions. It’s imperfect because humans are imperfect.

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      2 days ago

      And a community would decide to prevent climate change more than a country would because…?

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          Uh huh. You didn’t answer the question. My town can’t even successfully vote to keep the water district, there is no way we’d ban CFCs (let alone have done the necessary research) or fossil fuels. Everything you hate about the people of this country is because of the people who live in every town. It’s the same people.

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            I did answer the question. Now you’re moving the goalposts from lighthouses destroyed, as per the meme.

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                It’s defending higher power with anecdotal evidence, while the thing in the anecdote is being made worse by that higher power.