I dont see why the roads should only be for “licensed” cars. Stunt riding is fine as long as it doesn’t hurt people. Sometimes they join in the bike party. It seems like you’re trying to say the roads should exclude all these vehicles, when I would like more ebikes on the road and less cars. Dirt bikes and atvs can come too.
It’s about the spirit of it, and their intentions.
I agree with you for bike parties, general malarkey, fun.
These gangs aren’t having a bike party, they’re often criminally active - not in a positive way. They steal from members of the public, they trash people’s homes, property. They grievously assault people.
I am not a big fan of motorized vehicles, I generally bike. But it seems to me that saying “stunt riding is fine as long as it doesn’t hurt people” is more or less the same as saying “drunk driving is fine as long as it doesn’t hurt people”. That is if we are talking about stunt driving on a public road (haven’t read the whole discussion). stunt driving is much riskier than calm driving and when you do it in a public road you transfer that risk to other people, including pedestrians and non motorised bikers, who don’t want to be involved.
stunt driving is a really wide range, same with alcohol. I can easily find you many articles about stunt driving that caused deadly accidents but then you could easily say “yeah but that is not stunt driving” the same way one could say “yeah but that is too drunk”. Many people who consider themselves stunt drivers do occasionally drive on the wrong side of the road leading to accidents for instance. If you like stunt driving, you shouldn’t be doing it in public spaces.
It’s kind of crazy to me that anyone would drive at all if they’ve had any alcohol, barring like 1 drink per hour, and the hour has elapsed, but i get that people do it.
I dont see why the roads should only be for “licensed” cars. Stunt riding is fine as long as it doesn’t hurt people. Sometimes they join in the bike party. It seems like you’re trying to say the roads should exclude all these vehicles, when I would like more ebikes on the road and less cars. Dirt bikes and atvs can come too.
It’s about the spirit of it, and their intentions.
I agree with you for bike parties, general malarkey, fun.
These gangs aren’t having a bike party, they’re often criminally active - not in a positive way. They steal from members of the public, they trash people’s homes, property. They grievously assault people.
There’s nothing nobly anarchic about them.
How do you know it’s the same people?
I am not a big fan of motorized vehicles, I generally bike. But it seems to me that saying “stunt riding is fine as long as it doesn’t hurt people” is more or less the same as saying “drunk driving is fine as long as it doesn’t hurt people”. That is if we are talking about stunt driving on a public road (haven’t read the whole discussion). stunt driving is much riskier than calm driving and when you do it in a public road you transfer that risk to other people, including pedestrians and non motorised bikers, who don’t want to be involved.
I really don’t think stunt riding hurts anyone, especially compared to drunk driving. I wish that police would spend their time on real problems.
stunt driving is a really wide range, same with alcohol. I can easily find you many articles about stunt driving that caused deadly accidents but then you could easily say “yeah but that is not stunt driving” the same way one could say “yeah but that is too drunk”. Many people who consider themselves stunt drivers do occasionally drive on the wrong side of the road leading to accidents for instance. If you like stunt driving, you shouldn’t be doing it in public spaces.
It’s kind of crazy to me that anyone would drive at all if they’ve had any alcohol, barring like 1 drink per hour, and the hour has elapsed, but i get that people do it.
Stunt driving is at least fun to watch.
Agreed about alcohol but I have the exact same feeling about stunt driving in public roads.