• Photonic@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    I think you need to readjust your views about MDMA a bit as well as the people who use it. I’ve been to a few Dutch techno festivals and at some of them >90% of visitors are on MDMA or some other party drug. These are not stupid people. On the contrary, they are mainly the most intelligent, young, beautiful and fit urbanites. They care very much about their health and safety. You can bet almost everyone of them who read this and had this pill tossed it out immediately.

    The Netherlands has a tolerance policy to MDMA. People can and do send their drugs to the government to get it tested for free and this is probably how they picked up on the polluted pills. MDMA when used properly is a safer drug than alcohol.

    Side note: what is a “pill designer”?

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      13 hours ago

      MDMA when used properly is a safer drug than alcohol.

      I’m really not buying this. How are you basing this comparison?

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        How many die yearly of MDMA? How many die of alcohol?

        Alcohol is 2.6 million globally. MDMA does have reported deaths, 105 in 2023 in the european union, but those are mostly due to dirty pills, overheating, dehydration, undercooling, water poisoning (by drinking too much) or other secondhand causes by irresponsible use. There are no recorded deaths due to the substance itself, contrary to alcohol.

        Global Drug-Related Mortality Scale:

        • Opioids ~500,000–600,000+/year worldwide
        • Alcohol ~2,600,000/year worldwide
        • Cocaine ~29,000+/year (US only)
        • Methamphetamine ~34,000+/year (US only)
        • MDMA ~few hundred/year globally

        Next to that there are academic clinical trials being done with MDMA for treating depression and PTSD.

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        12 hours ago

        This has been extensively studied and is a consistent outcome in those studies.

        This is a pretty good summary and he lists several scientific sources like this one.

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        12 hours ago

        There have been multiple studies, it’s absolutely true. Alcohol is wayyyy more detrimental than pure MDMA.