• Initech_vs_Initrode@lemmy.zip
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    500 pounds of bike and rider impacting another vehicle at >100mph can easily kill everyone in that other vehicle.

    Maybe if the other vehicle is a tandem bicycle. Nobody is dying in a modern car or SUV due to being rear-ended by a motorcycle with a ~45mph speed differential.

    You’re not going to be personally harmed under those conditions on a freeway. A side impact due to cross- or turning-traffic on a two-way road? Maybe. Even then, a modern car is going to fare phenomenally well and much of the impact energy is turned into catapulting the rider into the air.

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      Maybe if the other vehicle is a tandem bicycle.

      Those are actually ridden by members of the public, you know.

      Nobody is dying in a modern car or SUV due to being rear-ended by a motorcycle with a ~45mph speed differential.

      Even if you were correct (you’re not), you’re ignoring that the modern car or SUV is still going to be a total loss. That property damage is another risk born by the public.

      And you’re completely disregarding the head-on collision when that biker comes across the median and hits the car with a ~180mph speed differential. Or the T-bone when the car doesn’t see the >100mph biker and turns across his path.

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        I’ve damaged plenty of vehicles, including being rear ended by a semi at a similar speed differential. If the semi didn’t total my kia soul, a motor cycle doing it isn’t going to total an SUV. A trip to the body shop would definitely be required, though. Modern vehicles can take a staggering amount of impact force and survive.

        I agree with everything else.

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        Those are actually ridden by members of the public, you know.

        Are there a lot of tandem bicycles out on the freeway, where this event occurred?

        Even if you were correct (you’re not), you’re ignoring that the modern car or SUV is still going to be a total loss.

        I am entirely correct and, again, where was the collision in the event being discussed?

        You want to make absurd hypothetical claims (that car drivers are terribly endangered by a motorcycle speeding in a single lane) and when that’s shown to be false you want to talk about a “total loss”. This is also pretty baseless. A motorcycle rear-ending a hypothetical car at a 45mph speed differential is unlikely to be a total loss of the car.

        And you’re completely disregarding the head-on collision when that biker comes across the median and hits the car with a ~180mph speed differential.

        Oh, neat, more absurd hypotheticals that are phenomenally unlikely. Meanwhile, motorcyclists are killed all the time by oncoming drivers turning left across their path or simply veering into the motorcyclist’s lane because dicking around on their phone is more important than controlling a multi-ton box.

        Or the T-bone when the car doesn’t see the >100mph biker and turns across his path.

        Do you make a lot of turns on freeways?

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          Meanwhile, motorcyclists are killed all the time by oncoming drivers turning left across their path

          Yeah, I’ve been involved in one of those. Driver was traveling at more than twice the speed limit. Had he been traveling only 20 over, he would have been where the driver would have reasonably been able to see him. But he was traveling more than twice the limit. The driver couldn’t foresee that he would cross his path. Couldn’t even see him before it was too late to stop his turn, or for the motorcyclist to evade.

          Car was totaled. Motorcyclist went to jail.