• mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    Okay… I did not conflate anything. I am not expressing any of the logical fallacies you have named. The entire purpose of the disclaimer and infographic was to expressly point out the differences.

    I have clarified this multiple times now. I am fully aware of the differences, nuances, and similarities between democratic socialism and social democracy. I can explain them to you if you’d like, but you’re going to continue pretending that you understand what I’m saying.

    The point of the infographic and disclaimer is to show that the people being discussed are advocating for either social democracy or democratic socialism, not socialism as an economic system.

    It is your lack of reading comprehension that has led you to believe I have equated the two. I will admit that the wording of my original disclaimer was confusing toward the end, and I can understand how you may have interpreted it that way. I have since changed the disclaimer specifically to prevent that misunderstanding from happening again.

    And man… I was waiting for you to finally accuse me of a straw man fallacy. If I had a nickel every time someone on here misused that term, I’d be rich.

    I did not commit a straw man, a red herring, or any of the other fallacies you’ve accused me of. You consistently misuse these terms, and unfortunately, that is extremely common in online discourse among people who don’t actually understand what these fallacies mean or how to identify them.

    Every time I have a conversation with someone who starts throwing around accusations of logical fallacies, the conversation inevitably degrades into arguing about the fallacies themselves instead of the actual subject. We are not engaged in a professional debate. I’m not going to convince you of everything, and you’re not going to convince me of everything. I know exactly what I wrote and what I meant. You can be as pompous and overconfident as you want, but that doesn’t change the meaning of what I said.

    I have now explicitly stated that I agree AOC is a socialist, that she is a Democrat, and that I understand the differences between the various political ideologies and economic systems being discussed.

    So, are you going to acknowledge that I’ve made those points and that I’ve conceded the things I’ve actually conceded, or are you going to continue arguing against something I never said?

    And don’t start your response with something like, “This isn’t going to work,” “You don’t understand,” or “You’re still doing the same thing.” I have directly addressed your points without committing the fallacies you’ve accused me of. I’ve acknowledged the points where you were correct and conceded several things, all of which you seem to gloss over.

    At this point, my conclusion is that you either aren’t reading what I’m writing or you’re simply not capable of understanding it.