Feelings are clearly running high in this thread but I’m going to stand by the argument I’ve made elsewhere, instead of the knee jerk reactionary shit.
If you can’t flip the gender roles this exchange and make the same conclusions, you’ve come to the wrong conclusion.
She initiated indirect physical contact. She initiated direct physical contact. She initiated escalation to potentially deadly force. And in her face book post she at least confirms the first two parts, with video evidence to corroborate. She needs a real lawyer because the argument that because she is smaller and physically weaker will end up with her catching charges.
She initiated this. She said she initiated this. The video evidence says she initiated this. She took the first step up each element of the escalation ladder (indirect use of force -> direct use of force -> use of deadly force). She made no efforts to de escalate.
If you want her to win, she needs a fucking lawyer. Because even a basically competent lawyer is going to be able to present her own words, her Facebook post on this, and be able to show that she knew she was the party to step up the escalation ladder.
She needs a lawyer and to press charges because if she doesn’t, he will. And with the evidence as presented here, he’d have a pretty solid case for self defense. Yes he used far to much force and went to far. But he at no point initiated this. Each turn of the wheel has him responding to her escalation. He tried two times to leave the situation. The first time unsuccessfully because she was brandishing a weapon. These are material facts that she acknowledged in her Facebook post, and which can be plainly seen in the video. It doesn’t matter if we think his use of force in response is excessive, if she keeps stepping up the escalation ladder.
Feelings are clearly running high in this thread but I’m going to stand by the argument I’ve made elsewhere, instead of the knee jerk reactionary shit.
If you can’t flip the gender roles this exchange and make the same conclusions, you’ve come to the wrong conclusion.
She initiated indirect physical contact. She initiated direct physical contact. She initiated escalation to potentially deadly force. And in her face book post she at least confirms the first two parts, with video evidence to corroborate. She needs a real lawyer because the argument that because she is smaller and physically weaker will end up with her catching charges.
She initiated this. She said she initiated this. The video evidence says she initiated this. She took the first step up each element of the escalation ladder (indirect use of force -> direct use of force -> use of deadly force). She made no efforts to de escalate.
If you want her to win, she needs a fucking lawyer. Because even a basically competent lawyer is going to be able to present her own words, her Facebook post on this, and be able to show that she knew she was the party to step up the escalation ladder.
She needs a lawyer and to press charges because if she doesn’t, he will. And with the evidence as presented here, he’d have a pretty solid case for self defense. Yes he used far to much force and went to far. But he at no point initiated this. Each turn of the wheel has him responding to her escalation. He tried two times to leave the situation. The first time unsuccessfully because she was brandishing a weapon. These are material facts that she acknowledged in her Facebook post, and which can be plainly seen in the video. It doesn’t matter if we think his use of force in response is excessive, if she keeps stepping up the escalation ladder.