• littleomid@feddit.org
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    18 hours ago

    It’s also a slop project. Matrix exists: join it and enjoy the federated future.

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      4 hours ago

      Matrix has its benefits, but it is not a 1:1 replacement for discord, for one thing they still haven’t figured out audio screen sharing. If privacy is your thing, it is also a mixed bag since jitsi is not e2ee while the fluxer video calls are. For my use case fluxer is preferable for less tech savvy people or people who want e2ee video calls, & matrix is good for e2ee chat messages, both have their place, & I use both where their strengths shine

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        2 hours ago

        Element call exists and both audio over screen share and encrypted video calls are a thing since couple years now. It’s not a 1:1 discord and it’s good because of that.

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        10 hours ago

        Ok go ahead, and please explain why matrix is awful. Please only speak from recent experience.

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          10 hours ago

          Slow loading, constant encryption errors, difficult to use, and way too many people on the flagship instance.

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            10 hours ago

            I’ve been on matrix for over about two years now. There is no noticeable slowness on the client, on any that I tried (and I’ve tried a lot of them), and the chats for our groups open immediately.

            There have been 0 encryption errors so far. We use encryption only in private chats and chats where we exchange important data. I have only been on large encrypted rooms (100+) once, and I did have an initial loading phase which took a couple of seconds. One should be able to live with that.

            I have brought 12 people including my mother on element. Three of those people are what I consider “techy”, and the rest managed to join and use it by themselves with zero teaching from me (other than giving them the home server URL).

            Hating matrix because lots of people are on the flagship server is like hating email because most people use Gmail. It’s not relevant for you. They can use whatever and you can use whatever.

            I have a feeling that I have this talk once a month because there are misconceptions and misinformation on matrix. Matrix does have some issues, but these are not it.

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              10 hours ago

              I don’t know what to tell you, that has been my experience, and the experience of many others I have discussed it with.

              Hating matrix because lots of people are on the flagship server is like hating email because most people use Gmail.

              Well for one, yes, I absolutely do hate that most people use Gmail. This i s simply not the case with many competing protocols. For another, no, it’s not the same, because Gmail makes no illusions of being private.

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      17 hours ago

      Matrix is cool but the lackluster custom emote support on mobile clients is kind of a deal breaker for me

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      16 hours ago

      Yeah.

      Also Fluxer is closed-source AFAIK.

      And they say they will open it, but that just feels like empty words, and even if they did, I know they will use a shitty license as the FSL.

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        16 hours ago

        It’s open source under AGPL 3.0.

        However they have worked on stuff privately before pushing it. That is apparently stopping now though, with contributions open again.

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          5 hours ago

          Oh well, I take back what I said, sorry for the misinformation. At least last time I checked there was no source code.

          And about what I said about the FSL license, I’m really traumatized by projects that supposedly open source their code, but with that license.