• Sibshops@feddit.cl
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    20 hours ago

    Technically it is, no? Socialism is community ownership of the means of production which includes labor. And that can arguably be extended to socialized services for labor such has healthcare, public transportation, and grocery stores.

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      Social democracy is not socialism by any metric, socialism starts at ownership of the means of production by workers, and a state that works for the proletariat and not capitalists. That’s the starting point, from there you can then add whatever social programs on top, but if you don’t start from there you’re still in a bourgeois democracy

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        18 hours ago

        I disagree, socialist institutions or services can still exist within a capitalist government, even if it is piecemeal. There doesn’t have to be a threshhold to pass for some aspect to be considered socialism.