• Pirate2377@lemmy.zip
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    9 hours ago

    Damn, can’t believe Israel would just do this for no reason at all. They just felt like it I guess. 9/11 though? It’s too naunced to say whether it’s justified or not, smh

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      2 hours ago

      I honestly think this point would be a useful addition to the discussion if skillfully communicated.

      Unfortunately, you really did a piss poor job of it.

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      8 hours ago

      Israel had the reason of “we love raping children without consequences by claiming self-defense.”

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        6 hours ago

        Oh right. October 7th is fully justified too, so Israel truly did declare war just because they’re evil money grubbing Zionists, I forgot. There is no such thing as a israeli cilivan since they’re europeans faking being jewish so everyone murdered or kidnapped deserved it and the rapes never happened and the witnesses testifying such are lying whores since they don’t support October 7th happening to them. You’re so right. Also Israel was asking for October 7th to happen because they held a music festival so close to the border. Anyway, Israel is bad so I guess Hamas is completely free from any criticism.

        Anyway, maybe some common ground. We just force the jews…I mean Eurpeons faking their ethnicity to extract resources such as…to Wyoming so we never have to worry about the middle east again since it’ll become a paradise. Deal?

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          4 hours ago

          How about the fact that since the inception of the state of Israel (and even before that really), the Zionists have relegated the people of Palestine as second class citizens? The Nakba? Or are we pretending that the apartheid state did not exist prior to October 7?

          Is it antisemetic to mention the soldiers that have been caught on video gangraping prisoners of war? Sniping children? Double tapping when Red Crescent shows up?

          Shame on you.

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            3 hours ago

            I don’t even support Israel, I think both sides suck. What I was trying to get across is that apparently arabs can’t ever do anything bad ever because they’re antiwest and thus they are Luke Skywalker and the entire west is the evil empire…apparently. Everything is good guy bad guy, how convenient. Guess America did deserve 9/11 since we are ALL EVIL

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              2 hours ago

              Plenty of blame to go around to basically everyone in the world, for one thing or another. Arguing whether the US deserved 9/11 is stupid. Most Americans have no idea what lead to the attack. For fucks’ sake, most Americans have no idea that we played a direct role in the creation of the Islamic revolution in Iran.

              We are the baddies.

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          5 hours ago

          October 7th is fully justified too

          Israel was doing shit to Gaza long before the October 7th thing.

          Anyway, Israel is bad so I guess Hamas is completely free from any criticism.

          Nobody is arguing Hamas are the good guys. Although, I’m pretty sure Hamas was born out of frustration with things Israel was doing in the region. But, by all means, ignore everything else and keep throwing around a bunch of fallacies to justify a genocide.

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            3 hours ago

            He said “claims self-defense”, which implies support for Hamas since apparently Israel doesn’t have the right to defend themselves against the groups that constantly attack them because fuck Israel I guess