Here is a quote from you about Obama’s kill list and signature drone strike policies: “If it is true that someone is planning to commit terrorism, it may be justified to kill them, if other methods of preventing them are not practical.” *You are focusing on terror versus narcoterror. This is missing the point. *
Obama’s kill list and signature drone strike policies did not include any due process to determine if there was any planning to commit terrorism, making the killings completely unjustified. In the case of signature strikes, the person’s identity would be unknown, and their behavior would be boiled down to where they were in the world, their gender, and their perceived age, so nothing about their behavior at all.
*You are ignoring the process by which someone is targeted, which is the entire point. *
I have given you ample opportunity to explain why that is not just a point but the entire point as you claim, or else to accept that there is some room for disagreement about what is or isn’t included in the point, and you haven’t taken it. There’s therefore no point in discussing this with you; goodbye. I hope you learn to converse in a more productive manner.
Wow you really don’t like it when someone quotes you, do you? haha
I didn’t realize I had to explain why due process is important. You see, little Billy, when anyone can punish you (in these cases, execute you) for anything without proving it, accusing you, or even knowing who you are, then it doesn’t matter what crime you are accused of. Justice becomes a fascist tool to be used against anyone who is not in the good graces of those wielding the power.
You can see then that it matters not if Trump calls them narcoterrorists or if Obama calls them terrorists. Or if the next guy decides jaywalking justifies that force. If there is no due process, the crime is immaterial, regardless of what it is.
Fuck, I forgot to turn off notifications for the comment.
I actually love when someone quotes me. I really don’t like it when someone ignores what I’m saying I agree and disagree with, though. You’re (still) doing that, because I said:
I agree that aspect [lack of due process] … is really bad.
but now you’re trying to explain, sarcastically, why due process is important. If you think you “have to explain why due process is important” to me, your reading comprehension is shit.
I’m only explaining all of this to you in more detail because your reply was obnoxious and I have a personality flaw which prevents me from ignoring obnoxious comments that I have read; I’m now going to disable notifications so your next obnoxious comment doesn’t trigger that reflex. Here’s a challenge, since I’m not going to see your reply: instead of replying, try to understand what it is that you have so far failed to.
I hope you learn why reading and understanding people you’re replying to is essential.
Here is a quote from you about Obama’s kill list and signature drone strike policies: “If it is true that someone is planning to commit terrorism, it may be justified to kill them, if other methods of preventing them are not practical.” *You are focusing on terror versus narcoterror. This is missing the point. *
Obama’s kill list and signature drone strike policies did not include any due process to determine if there was any planning to commit terrorism, making the killings completely unjustified. In the case of signature strikes, the person’s identity would be unknown, and their behavior would be boiled down to where they were in the world, their gender, and their perceived age, so nothing about their behavior at all.
*You are ignoring the process by which someone is targeted, which is the entire point. *
I have given you ample opportunity to explain why that is not just a point but the entire point as you claim, or else to accept that there is some room for disagreement about what is or isn’t included in the point, and you haven’t taken it. There’s therefore no point in discussing this with you; goodbye. I hope you learn to converse in a more productive manner.
Wow you really don’t like it when someone quotes you, do you? haha
I didn’t realize I had to explain why due process is important. You see, little Billy, when anyone can punish you (in these cases, execute you) for anything without proving it, accusing you, or even knowing who you are, then it doesn’t matter what crime you are accused of. Justice becomes a fascist tool to be used against anyone who is not in the good graces of those wielding the power.
You can see then that it matters not if Trump calls them narcoterrorists or if Obama calls them terrorists. Or if the next guy decides jaywalking justifies that force. If there is no due process, the crime is immaterial, regardless of what it is.
I hope you learn why due process is essential.
Fuck, I forgot to turn off notifications for the comment.
I actually love when someone quotes me. I really don’t like it when someone ignores what I’m saying I agree and disagree with, though. You’re (still) doing that, because I said:
but now you’re trying to explain, sarcastically, why due process is important. If you think you “have to explain why due process is important” to me, your reading comprehension is shit.
I’m only explaining all of this to you in more detail because your reply was obnoxious and I have a personality flaw which prevents me from ignoring obnoxious comments that I have read; I’m now going to disable notifications so your next obnoxious comment doesn’t trigger that reflex. Here’s a challenge, since I’m not going to see your reply: instead of replying, try to understand what it is that you have so far failed to.
I hope you learn why reading and understanding people you’re replying to is essential.