• chloroken@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    You’re mistaken. Danes are not a race.

    Xenophobia is the term you were after.

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      4 days ago

      Im not saying Danes are a race. Im saying race is a social construct, so there could be made such a construct such as “the danish race”. There isn’t, but there could be. Or otherwise im misunderstanding you

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        4 days ago

        This isn’t quite correct. The Danes are a nation, not a “race.” Social relations are material processes, they don’t disappear just because someone has a different idea. “Race” is a bourgeois theory that states that there are hard lines genetically between peoples, while the Marxist theory of nations understands them as historically constituted communities of people with a common language, culture, and economic life.

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          4 days ago

          Right. I dont really see what the point of contention is. I dont think “dane” is a race (of people teehee). A racial identity or whatever one would call it could be constructed around such a concept. While most Danish politicians are trying to construct something around a national identity that lets them be racist to brown people, there is also a small group trying to do it around some pseudoscientific idea of race - mainly about drinking milk?

          So again: Dane is not a race (discounting some great dogs) because races aren’t really real, but because of that, one could construct the idea of a race, if it were something that would be beneficial to ones politics of whatever. And by “one” i actually mean “a bunch”.

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            4 days ago

            My point is generally that social relations are real, material processes. Race does not fall into that category, ideas themselves are not material processes by themselves. Nations, genders, classes, and more are real, material, social relations and processes. Race is not. I think it might be helpful for you to brush up a bit more on dialectical materialism, and I don’t mean that in a demeaning manner.

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              4 days ago

              Thank you for taking the time to unclear this knot. Ill look at the texts you’ve provided (the ones I haven’t already looked at, that is). Its all much appreciated.

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                No problem! This is one of those subjects that isn’t immediately understandable even though it seeks like it should be, so no worries!