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jankforlife@lemmy.ml to Europe@lemmy.ml · 5 days ago

Britain’s elites want you ready to die for a war they keep imagining

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Britain’s elites want you ready to die for a war they keep imagining

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jankforlife@lemmy.ml to Europe@lemmy.ml · 5 days ago
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Why Britain’s elites want the public to prepare for war with Russia
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Politicians, generals and Sky’s The Wargame are urging Britons to imagine war with Russia. Who benefits from the growing fear?
  • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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    Remember when the US backed a coup that overthrew Ukraine’s government in 2014 leading directly to the current war? Fuck off clown

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      I remember when Ukraine’s president reversed decades of policy, that he was specifically elected to enact…leading to protests and riots, demanding his removal from office. The US had nothing to do with that…Russia did.

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        sure thing buddy.

        In 2014, the US supported a fascist coup in Ukraine.

        • Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU. BBC, 2014: Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call. Audio.

        Ukraine has a long history of Nazism.

        • BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
        • Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
        • The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
        • The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
        • The Washington Post, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
        • Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
        • The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
        • openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
        • Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?

        NATO has been expanding toward Russia, despite assurances when East and West Germany were reunited.

        • In 2008, the US declares their intention to integrate Ukraine and Georgia into NATO, despite the Russian government’s warnings the year prior.
        • The George Washington University, 2017: NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard
        • In 2001, the US leaves the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty and starts placing nuclear-capable missiles closer and closer to Russia. The EurAsian Times, 2021: ANALYSIS: US Withdrawal From Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty Continues To Haunt World 20 Years Later
        • United World International, 2022: NATO’s pledges in documents not to expand eastward

        NATO has been refusing to abide by agreements, and despite being elected on a peace platform, the Zelensky government has consistently escalated tensions.

        • Orinoco Tribune, 2022: Former German Chancellor Merkel Admits that Minsk Peace Agreements Were Part of Scheme for Ukraine to Buy Time to Prepare for War With Russia
        • Al Mayadeen, 2023: Zelensky admits he never intended to implement Minsk agreements
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        Anything’s possible when you make shit up kiddo

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          The only ones “making shit up” are the ones saying this was some kind of CIA operation. Why would the CIA need to get involved in something that Russia and Yanukovich made inevitable.

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            Idk what part of this story you think proves me wrong or why, especially when the history of CIA operations exactly like this is so well documented. If you’re going to lie at least put some effort into making it believable.

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              What am I lying about?

              Yanukovich was elected on the promise that he would continue to strengthen ties with the EU, and sign the EU–Ukraine Association Agreement. An agreement that had been negotiated over the course of many years, and was already approved by both sides. When he suddenly refused to sign it at the last minute, people all across the country lost their shit, and took to the streets to demand his removal from office.

              Not one word of that is a lie. Those are just facts.

              Like I said, the CIA didn’t need to orchestrate anything. Russia and Yanukovich made those protests happen all by themselves.

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                You really need to read a fucking book. But in the meantime try this on for size

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                  Lol! You have got to be trolling me. What the actual fuck was that supposed to be? Are you seriously suggesting that the “Nazis” in charge of Ukraine are actually…wait for it…Jews?

                  For real, man. Kudos. I am impressed. That one takes the cake.

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                    Yeah man there have never been Jewish Nazis, there’s definitely not a special word for them from WW2

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                    ??? like honestly, what the absolute fuck is wrong with you? you didn’t even fucking read it, did you? how is that what you picked up from the article? are you stupid? do you lack comprehension? you disgusting fucking piece of shit.

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                  Lol! You’re skeptical about the events that took place?

                  Buddy, how do you even have an opinion about this, without even knowing what happened leading up to the protests? If you don’t understand the context, then your “opinions” are meaningless. You’re just repeating propaganda. You can’t even make a coherent argument against what I’m telling you, can you? All you can do is respond with more memes, and baseless objections.

                  Try making even a single point that actually fits the facts.

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                    You’re still going on here, despite absolutely no one taking you or the shit you spew seriously? Stop, you’re pathetic. You have the reading comprehension of a twelve year old. Shut up and leave.

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                    Anything’s possible when you make shit up

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