• eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    you should not expect anything to change by voting and history proves that substantial & enduring changes can only comes from us.

    still you should vote, even if it’s for your dog, but there are better uses for it. the epstein class assumes that you will vote for one of their approved parties, so cooperating in this system the way they want you to only serves to help validate it at best.

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      2 days ago

      I realize I’m running a foul of approved Lemmy talking points but voting for your dog and persistent at ot forever don’t seem realistic to me

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        Youre the only one talking about voting for a dog. Youre also the one who’s reducing all political action down to voting.

        And you’re also the one who is arguing against “don’t vote democrat” on the basis of “we need to change things”, which seems like the least logical line of reasoning available. By doing the same thing we have done every election so far, by further entrenching the group we wish to replace or reform, we will somehow affect change because… Even though it’s the same people and the same conditions you think it will be different this time?
        Actual psychosis.

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          I’m not arguing any of those things. I’m saying this meme is dumb, and most of the responses telling me how actually it’s really deep, are also dumb. Because they reduce down to “voting for your dog is just as good” and the guy you’re defending who is replying to me actually agrees with me. Take a deep breath

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            You know we can read your previous comments, right? So we can see you say other stuff than “this meme is dumb”. Stuff like “you might as well vote for your dog”. It seems pretty clear you struggle with basic communication, but at least try to keep a hold of what you yourself have said. That much should be doable.

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        voting on lemmy doesn’t matter – only the stomach you have for questioning your own indoctrination does.

        voting for your dog isn’t realistic, but voting for psl or green or communist is realistic and many countries have been doing it for decades and things are much better for their people as result compared to americans.

        voting to change anything also isn’t realistic, but mexico proved that it was still possible in 2017 and that’s why they have president shienbaum while we’re stuck with president trump.