The two Alpha Epsilon Pi members were charged with hazing. The fraternity was booted from the University of Wisconsin-Madison campus in 2015, officials said.
These days, ppl don’t let strangers into their homes, many feel the need to join to literally have somewhere to go on weekends that isn’t the dorms. Most dudes Ik in a frat dropped a year or two in once they knew enough ppl to go out on weekends and hangout at different houses without needing the frat. Most may not be accurate, a lot of people stay. Tbh I only got away with having fun drinking and partyhopppng because many of my friends were in frats and would let me in.
Also they get laid a lot just by being in a frat, the amount of woman I had act thirsty over me asking what frat I was in just to lose all interest when I said none is hilariously high. Obv not all women, but a good small amount does like fucking dudes just because they are in frats.
Throwing parties yourself or with your friends sucks, it gets dirty really fast, unless you have someone watching the door like frats do it gets packed with freshman who desttroy your home every time. Everytime I kicked people out of my own house for it randomly getting packed they broke something on the way out.
From what I’ve heard of hazing, it’s realtively tame compared to what it used to be. They try to avoid getting banned off campus or are trying to come back on after being banned typically. Most fked up things I heard at my school was being chased in a forest with paintball guns and needing to chop a tree in teams (which got that frat banned since it was protected land)
Then there’s hell week where they toss them in a basement and throw flour and oatmeal type sht (claiming its vomit) at them while telling them it’s actually gonna be 2 weeks.
I had the same experience at frat parties, hella flirty until you disclose you actually just showed up here with hot women and were allowed in under that set of rules. Someone mentioned the far right hierarchy aspect and the ladies were hella into that part.
Imo some of the ppl that join frats need them, it’s the only adversity they’ll face. I’ve known npc type ppl with no personalities that join a frat and come out actual ppl, idk if its the frat or just being in college tho. There are plenty of ppl that make no friends and have minimal interactions so the forced interactions through a frat could be helpful. Kinda forces them not to be incels/redpill (I think most ppl would imagine thats the type of person who joins a frat, but its the type of dude they hate and wouldn’t allow near them), at least the ones I knew of would basically drop anyone who couldn’t talk to girls or bring them to their events, so you have to be able to be friends with woman.
And a lot of the sa that happens/happened wasn’t people in the frats, it would be random ppl they let in, which is also why only frat members or people who know them and come with 2-3 girls are allowed these days. It’s like a social credit check. Still happens, still have sus frats and members, but the rate is much lower for a reason.
the amount of woman I had act thirsty over me asking what frat I was in just to lose all interest when I said none is hilariously high. Obv not all women, but a good small amount does like fucking dudes just because they are in frats.
Do you have any theory as to why? Is it a status thing? Where they want to sleep with someone with status?
Status, access, dont forget a lot of these kids are rich rich, so trying to get that golden handcuff on early. Probably just an in group / out group dynamic as well. I never got to specifically ask, but i spend a lot of time thinking about it 20 years later. We were all about partying and the frats had the biggest parties, and they were somewhat exclusive. If you’re joining these orgs youre porbably looking for like minded people. im sure some of it was harmless, some of it was stupid, and some of it was social. but boy it was a very real phenomenon. The next one i showed up at I had a whole frat boy background ready to goooooo
These days, ppl don’t let strangers into their homes, many feel the need to join to literally have somewhere to go on weekends that isn’t the dorms. Most dudes Ik in a frat dropped a year or two in once they knew enough ppl to go out on weekends and hangout at different houses without needing the frat. Most may not be accurate, a lot of people stay. Tbh I only got away with having fun drinking and partyhopppng because many of my friends were in frats and would let me in.
Also they get laid a lot just by being in a frat, the amount of woman I had act thirsty over me asking what frat I was in just to lose all interest when I said none is hilariously high. Obv not all women, but a good small amount does like fucking dudes just because they are in frats.
Throwing parties yourself or with your friends sucks, it gets dirty really fast, unless you have someone watching the door like frats do it gets packed with freshman who desttroy your home every time. Everytime I kicked people out of my own house for it randomly getting packed they broke something on the way out.
From what I’ve heard of hazing, it’s realtively tame compared to what it used to be. They try to avoid getting banned off campus or are trying to come back on after being banned typically. Most fked up things I heard at my school was being chased in a forest with paintball guns and needing to chop a tree in teams (which got that frat banned since it was protected land)
Then there’s hell week where they toss them in a basement and throw flour and oatmeal type sht (claiming its vomit) at them while telling them it’s actually gonna be 2 weeks.
I had the same experience at frat parties, hella flirty until you disclose you actually just showed up here with hot women and were allowed in under that set of rules. Someone mentioned the far right hierarchy aspect and the ladies were hella into that part.
Imo some of the ppl that join frats need them, it’s the only adversity they’ll face. I’ve known npc type ppl with no personalities that join a frat and come out actual ppl, idk if its the frat or just being in college tho. There are plenty of ppl that make no friends and have minimal interactions so the forced interactions through a frat could be helpful. Kinda forces them not to be incels/redpill (I think most ppl would imagine thats the type of person who joins a frat, but its the type of dude they hate and wouldn’t allow near them), at least the ones I knew of would basically drop anyone who couldn’t talk to girls or bring them to their events, so you have to be able to be friends with woman.
And a lot of the sa that happens/happened wasn’t people in the frats, it would be random ppl they let in, which is also why only frat members or people who know them and come with 2-3 girls are allowed these days. It’s like a social credit check. Still happens, still have sus frats and members, but the rate is much lower for a reason.
Do you have any theory as to why? Is it a status thing? Where they want to sleep with someone with status?
But if you’ve ever wanted a sorority girl as a dude, it’s kinda the same. The more popular ones seem like microcelebs I guess.
Kinda, they see it as a flex to have slept with someone at a more popular frat (changed every year) and it makes them feel connected.
Status, access, dont forget a lot of these kids are rich rich, so trying to get that golden handcuff on early. Probably just an in group / out group dynamic as well. I never got to specifically ask, but i spend a lot of time thinking about it 20 years later. We were all about partying and the frats had the biggest parties, and they were somewhat exclusive. If you’re joining these orgs youre porbably looking for like minded people. im sure some of it was harmless, some of it was stupid, and some of it was social. but boy it was a very real phenomenon. The next one i showed up at I had a whole frat boy background ready to goooooo
Get a frat boy for benefits. There is selling oneself for things bedsides money.
Interesting. Benefits such as…?
Marrying well. Expensive “gifts.” Dental work. Clothing. Introductions. Jobs.
Ohhh. That makes sense now