• flandish@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      it has showed us the propaganda working its formulas. i reckon russia claims the same kind of stats to their own people, no?

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        5 days ago

        Except. Ukraine is still there. Fighting. And Russia … Not winning.

        That alone shows at least: that either Ukraine is much more powerfull then anyone thought, or that Russia is much weaker then anyone thought.

        Probably a little of both.

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            So, let’s say, hypothetically, Russia has a master plan behind all this - that being the loser is somehow winning them something elsewhere. What would that be? Do they intend to look weak in order to unleash their full potential somewhere else and never intended to take Ukraine at all?

            I highly doubt that.

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            Oh come now. How do we know it? Because it’s still going… because Russia is still claiming ownership of parts that it not even has soldiers inside of.

            Because Putin is panicking. He has no way out.

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        5 days ago

        Not so much, no. Russian media is more concerned with identity politics–discussing the ‘fascism’ of Ukraine, discussing recruitment of (Ukrainian) troops, the difficulties of ‘liberating’ a country, etc.