The party insiders favored the person who has always been in the party, over someone who joined that year? Cmon man.
Bernie could have fixed this at any time, by actually joining the Democratic Party. He didn’t.
Bernie lost by MILLIONS of actual votes. Not super delegates. Actual votes.
Life ain’t fair. Just because it’s not fair, doesn’t mean people should sit at fucking home and sulk and not try and get something done instead of nothing.
I don’t care who the party insiders support, and it’s completely understandable that they supported Hillary. But that shouldn’t translate to her having an enormous lead before anyone votes. That’s not democratic. Considering the Democtratic party is named after democracy, you’d think they should be a shining example of it.
I don’t know why you keep explaining that Bernie lost by millions of votes. I understand that. You are trying to convince me of something I already believe. I am simply trying to even explain to you that my problem is with what happened before anyone voted.
I’m not mad at something that didn’t happen. I certainly didn’t sit at fucking home while a Nazi ran against Clinton or Harris because of this hypothetical.
Apparently, this is the desired outcome for some people on this site.
But that shouldn’t translate to her having an enormous lead before anyone votes. That’s not democratic.
Look at the post you’re under. The claim that Bernie was cheated is rampant and you’re down in the comments arguing with people who have hard irrefutable numbers showing he lost by such a large margin that superdelegates could never have played any part in it. Your intentions are clear.
Have you read any of my comments? This entire time, I’ve made it incredibly clear that I’m talking about delegates. You’re either not very good at reading or you’re purposefully misunderstanding me.
Let me lay it out again, nice and slow. Delegates are the only votes that actually count toward deciding the nominee. It is indisputable that Hillary had a huge lead over Sanders in delegates before anyone voted in the primaries. Look it up.
California is roughly 10% of the electoral college. Imagine, if you will, if California just went to whoever the elite liked in the general election, regardless of any votes. That would be unfair, yes? That’s not even as bad as the 15% share of superdelegates in the DNC.
Did California go to whoever the elites like? No, it went to the most popular candidate in that state: Hillary Clinton, so stop spreading your bullshit.
The party insiders favored the person who has always been in the party, over someone who joined that year? Cmon man.
Bernie could have fixed this at any time, by actually joining the Democratic Party. He didn’t.
Bernie lost by MILLIONS of actual votes. Not super delegates. Actual votes.
Life ain’t fair. Just because it’s not fair, doesn’t mean people should sit at fucking home and sulk and not try and get something done instead of nothing.
I don’t care who the party insiders support, and it’s completely understandable that they supported Hillary. But that shouldn’t translate to her having an enormous lead before anyone votes. That’s not democratic. Considering the Democtratic party is named after democracy, you’d think they should be a shining example of it.
I don’t know why you keep explaining that Bernie lost by millions of votes. I understand that. You are trying to convince me of something I already believe. I am simply trying to even explain to you that my problem is with what happened before anyone voted.
You’re mad at a hypothetical that was nowhere near happening.
I am mad because the system in the party is set up to be unfair and undemocratic. If you think about it, you should probably be mad about that too.
I’m not mad at something that didn’t happen. I certainly didn’t sit at fucking home while a Nazi ran against Clinton or Harris because of this hypothetical.
Apparently, this is the desired outcome for some people on this site.
The popular vote mattered in the primary that Hillary won, but was ignored in the general that she also won but lost the EC Vote to Trump.
Rather than fight Hillary and the DNC we should have fought Trump and it’s still true now.
I have voted for Trump’s opponent every opportunity I’ve had. What else do you want me to do?
Promote them, stop speaking ill of them, stop parroting the bullshit claim that the DNC magically made MILLIONS of votes appear for Hillary or Biden.
I have never made that claim. Are you just arguing with some imaginary person here? I can leave you to it, if you want to continue.
Look at the post you’re under. The claim that Bernie was cheated is rampant and you’re down in the comments arguing with people who have hard irrefutable numbers showing he lost by such a large margin that superdelegates could never have played any part in it. Your intentions are clear.
Have you read any of my comments? This entire time, I’ve made it incredibly clear that I’m talking about delegates. You’re either not very good at reading or you’re purposefully misunderstanding me.
Let me lay it out again, nice and slow. Delegates are the only votes that actually count toward deciding the nominee. It is indisputable that Hillary had a huge lead over Sanders in delegates before anyone voted in the primaries. Look it up.
California is roughly 10% of the electoral college. Imagine, if you will, if California just went to whoever the elite liked in the general election, regardless of any votes. That would be unfair, yes? That’s not even as bad as the 15% share of superdelegates in the DNC.
Did California go to whoever the elites like? No, it went to the most popular candidate in that state: Hillary Clinton, so stop spreading your bullshit.