• Glide@piefed.ca
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    5 days ago

    Literally no one above you conflated anarchists and marxists with tankies.

    Imagine playing victim about something no one said. The very definition of “strawman.”

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      5 days ago

      ‘tankies’ is such a broadly defined pejorative at this point and it absolutely does cover anarchists the way liberals use it.

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        5 days ago

        “liberals” is such a broadly defined pejorative at this point and it absolutely does cover democratic socialists the way tankies use it.

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          5 days ago

          if they are pro capitalism, yes it does; i know many communists/marxists who are also in DSA that the label does not apply to.

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            5 days ago

            If the… democratic socialists… are… pro-capitalism…?

            Let’s examine that statement. Does it make any sense?

            Are you perhaps confusing democratic socialists with social democrats? Because those are different things, if you didn’t know…

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              4 days ago

              believe it or not there are people in the reformist org who are not interested in seeing capitalism go; the org is not a monolith.

              have you even been to a DSA meeting? i feel like i have probably been to more DSA meetings than you.

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              5 days ago

              Reformism is a dead-end, so demsocs may want socialism but in practice are limited to welfare capitalism. The intent may not be to preserve capitalism, but the effect ultimately reinforces it.

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              4 days ago

              I appreciate your attempt to educate these ponderous oafs but they’re only interested in keeping republicans in power.

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        5 days ago

        Are these Liberals in the room with us right now?

        You can make any argument you want when you imagine words to mean whatever you need them to mean.