Oh yeah, I’m well aware. But I just get a real sense of despair if I start treating everyone as one dimensional charicatures of whatever they appear to be portraying themselves as. The moment they said the accelerationist vote was for Democrats I knew I was never going to take them seriously, but it is a lot of fun catching them in double speak and weirs logic they try to pull.
Do you think the Democrats are less effective managers of capitalism, or do you think accelerationism is deliberately making things worse? The former is pretty inarguable, the latter is a widespread misconception on a flawed ideology to begin with. There’s no doublespeak on my part, but it’s nice to at least know you were bad-faith from the beginning.
I think you’re purposefully misreading the intent and your supposed outcomes in order to manufacture an argument that you can both claim is technically correct while also using it as a defeter to anyone trying to make economic arguments.
Because if good managing in capitalism will ruin capitalism then what the fuck is the Iran War doing? Do you even watch the news?
In Marxist analysis, as capitalism goes on, capital accumulates, centralizes, and coalesces. The rate of profit also has a tendency to fall as time goes on, and automation and productivity raise the organic composition of capital. This has a socializing impact on how production and distribution is organized, while leaving appropriation of the surplus in fewer and fewer hands. This leads to crisis. Accelerating the growth of capital therefore makes this crisis happen sooner.
The reason this is a terrible strategy is because the collapse of capitalism does not guarantee socialism. For that, you need a revolutionary party that can educate and guide the whole of the working class towards revolution, otherwise it just collapses into barbarism. Climate change cannot wait for capitalism to collapse on its own either. As the better stewards of accumulation, the DNC provides a more stable base for capitalism to progress smoothly and hit crisis faster.
Nah not today. Tired of being treated like I’m not a reasoning human being as opposed to a name on the page of some backwater Reddit offshoot. How do you tolerate it? Don’t actually answer.
I’ll answer anyways, it’s because onlookers view conversations made online and this shapes their thinking. When people like yourself admit to never taking your interlocutor seriously, this just serves to legitimize what the other person is saying. I am a Marxist, I believe people can change, and that I shouldn’t obscure my views or fail to try to bring people up to better levels of understanding. I also have had people thank me directly, so positive reinforcement helps.
Oh yeah, I’m well aware. But I just get a real sense of despair if I start treating everyone as one dimensional charicatures of whatever they appear to be portraying themselves as. The moment they said the accelerationist vote was for Democrats I knew I was never going to take them seriously, but it is a lot of fun catching them in double speak and weirs logic they try to pull.
Do you think the Democrats are less effective managers of capitalism, or do you think accelerationism is deliberately making things worse? The former is pretty inarguable, the latter is a widespread misconception on a flawed ideology to begin with. There’s no doublespeak on my part, but it’s nice to at least know you were bad-faith from the beginning.
I think you’re purposefully misreading the intent and your supposed outcomes in order to manufacture an argument that you can both claim is technically correct while also using it as a defeter to anyone trying to make economic arguments.
Because if good managing in capitalism will ruin capitalism then what the fuck is the Iran War doing? Do you even watch the news?
In Marxist analysis, as capitalism goes on, capital accumulates, centralizes, and coalesces. The rate of profit also has a tendency to fall as time goes on, and automation and productivity raise the organic composition of capital. This has a socializing impact on how production and distribution is organized, while leaving appropriation of the surplus in fewer and fewer hands. This leads to crisis. Accelerating the growth of capital therefore makes this crisis happen sooner.
The reason this is a terrible strategy is because the collapse of capitalism does not guarantee socialism. For that, you need a revolutionary party that can educate and guide the whole of the working class towards revolution, otherwise it just collapses into barbarism. Climate change cannot wait for capitalism to collapse on its own either. As the better stewards of accumulation, the DNC provides a more stable base for capitalism to progress smoothly and hit crisis faster.
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I do watch the news, what point are you trying to raise?
Nah not today. Tired of being treated like I’m not a reasoning human being as opposed to a name on the page of some backwater Reddit offshoot. How do you tolerate it? Don’t actually answer.
I’ll answer anyways, it’s because onlookers view conversations made online and this shapes their thinking. When people like yourself admit to never taking your interlocutor seriously, this just serves to legitimize what the other person is saying. I am a Marxist, I believe people can change, and that I shouldn’t obscure my views or fail to try to bring people up to better levels of understanding. I also have had people thank me directly, so positive reinforcement helps.