• Akasazh@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I mean I appreciate you taking that point.

    But I am going to shit on that guy for whatever reason, because he basically shits on the rest of us like that.

    I don’t mind recovered or recovering addicts, as long as they have a modicum of humility about their behaviour.

    This fucker has none, he’s unrepentant. My shit will go there, unrelentant.

    He’s destroying any health safeguards and killing many by proxy. He will not have my respect. I will shit on his grave like he shat on his family legacy.

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      19 hours ago

      When you make fun of RFKjr for being an addict, it doesn’t hurt him. But it does hurt addicts who can hear you.

      It’s like making fun of Trump for being fat. It doesn’t hurt Trump, it just hurts any fat people in earshot.

      Both of these guys are terrible people for reasons that have actually nothing to do with drug use or body weight. Focus on that shit.

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        16 hours ago

        I do not make fun of addicts. I think I’m this case his being a former addict it’s even irrelevant, as he’s a shit person first and foremost.

        Most recovering addicts one known have taken a very positive and beneficial outlook on life and that is praiseworthy.

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      1 day ago

      People in recovery already deal with enough stigma. What we are saying is shit on him for things that don’t also shit on folks in recovery. The list is a mile long you can pick as much as you like, but leave folks suffering from addiction and those who are in recovery out of it.

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        16 hours ago

        Agreed and it is immersive enough to try and kick an addiction. Most former addicts I known have become a very much better person on top of that terrible struggle.

        In this car him being a former addicts is maybe even besides the point. He’s just a horrible person. Dot.

      • a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
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        21 hours ago

        This man, in a professional capacity, has boasted about snorting off of toilet seats.

        He brings more harm to refoering people than anyone could by mocking his being a heroin dealer who is now controlling vaccine policy.

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          20 hours ago

          Its okay not to get it, but your doubling down on some nonsense.

          A persons behavior during active use usually carries a lot of shame. Its not unusual to want to tell some of colorful stories from that part of a persons life, especially if they are now living in recovery.

          I hate this guy as much as the next but saying his boasting about a pretty tame drug story does more to hurt addicts than anyone just isn’t true. And on top of that its simply more stigma.

          What you are implying is that a person who has done that has no business being in [insert respectful career].

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            7 hours ago

            I do not believe at all that a person who’s been addicted doesn’t deserve his position. Quite the contrary.

            However, boasting about their past behaviors clearly has no regret for what they’ve done. No remorse for the drugs that they’ve sold. And frankly, while this is one facet that’s important to you, for the rest of us, it’s just one thing amongst a torrent of others.