And that is even ignoring various other economic indicators that showed worsened living conditions after the fall.

I would disagree

Siding with nazis so brazenly? Ok.

even tho NATO had some influence in prague spring, it was still largely a pro communist movement against the revisionist USSR

It’s pretty silly, in this day and age, to believe that NATO-backed groups - like Solidarnosc, like the Mujahideen, like the Daesh, etc. - were in any way benevolent or socialist.

Where did they work, and did they live in Moscow?

Not in Moscow. Not in any administrative centers.

but honestly I’m not sure if you could find one family in USSR that would claim stores were well supplied in the 80s.

“Well-supplied” compared to what? Would you say that stores in most of the capitalist world were well-supplied?

Also I come from one of the satellite state. Food was taken out from the country, while there were protests over look of food in the stores. Kinda hard to claim it did not happen.

Movement of food between the republics doesn’t seem to be hard to believe, but also does not seem to be malicious.

I’m just addressing oversimplified vision of what money meant in state capitalism.

It’s rather silly to call planned economy “state capitalism”. For most of its existence, there wasn’t even the capitalist class - i.e. a class of people that owned the means of production as private property and used other people’s labour to extract profit from said means of production.

I won’t disagree but you’re (intentionally?) shifting goalposts.

In what way would this be a shifting of goalposts?

A child is likely not going to have much familiarity with important things that are important in this context - in particular, things like getting a job, prices compared to salaries, not having to deal with layoffs, and being able to get new housing. Those things do need to be accounted for.

We also need to take into consideration that Gorbachyov’s administration significantly reduced the living standards, and it was his goal to dismantle the USSR. So, we should compare the years before him with the full on restoration of capitalism that people keep claiming to be an improvement.

As already stated and the easiest example is I’ve been told by multiple friends about waiting in the bread line for their parents for hours.

Not great that they had to wait for hours, but this is an inconvenience compared to not having access to food at all. Going to remind you that many people do die by being unable to access food under capitalism. Would you actually say that the situation in, say, Africa, or non-socialist Asia, or in post-USSR Russia and Ukraine was somehow better?

As a North American imagine having to wait for the state to give you your bread for the day and having to wait 6 hours in line to get it.

You are talking about a place with “food deserts”, and where people do die by being unable to access food at all.
Also, consider that most of the world does not live in the Imperial Core. Rather, the Imperial Core’s wealth is predicated on plundering the rest of the world. You likely only considered the living conditions in the USSR and in the Imperial Core (and not the Russian Empire, not the post-Soviet Russia and Ukraine, and not elsewhere).

Also, you do realise that breadlines are sometimes a thing in the US to this day, as well, right?

This is also ignoring the rampant corruption that also existed in the USSR at the time too. You could argue it was more corrupt than we have in North America now.

“Corruption” is a very nebulous accusation that liberals love to throw at NATO’s enemies. Anyway, can’t exactly compete in corruption with states that have literal lobbying.

“Ignoring Russia” is when you (the most prolific invader in the world) declare your intent to antagonise Russia, do a coup against a neighbouring neutral state, and attempt to get your military to its border.

The fact that you seriously think that people were not paid in the USSR is extremely silly.

You are keep implying that the vast majority of people lived better in the Russian Empire, and that praising the Russian Empire this way is somehow not edgy.

Not the person whom you asked, but

Who are you to define “meaningful”?

To get a good view on the matter, it would require having worked and having gone through a process of getting new housing both before Gorbachyov and after the fall of the USSR. Something tells me that people who earn, say, 30 000 or so rubles (or an analogous sum) per month today were in a much better spot back before Gorbachyov.

The experiences of my family (in the USSR) were not as you describe. Things were cheap and necessities were available. Getting some things was more difficult for non-price reasons. That also seems to align with studies like what the CIA conducted about access to nutrition in the USSR.

Overall, that was a significant improvement over what came before, as well as over what came after.

The labels should be swapped.
It is overwhelmingly the western 12 year-olds that complain about praise for communism/communist revolutions.

Also, let’s not pretend as if Eastern Europeans were oppressed by the Warsaw Pact, unlike how NATO treats the vast majority of the world.

By stamping out Prague spring

Suppressing NATO-backed nazis is not a bad thing, contrary to what you claim.

Weight is a force.
What did you think it was, and what did you think it was measured in?

Also, ironic to complain about social sciences not being sciences while also failing at basic physics.

Also, you are mixing up measures and units of measurement.

NATO had been pushing for war with Russia for a while. It finally got it.

So yeah, either of the recent blue governments can be said to have started the war.

In my entire lifetime, only republicans have started wars

Are you less than two years old? Did you already forget that the most recent blue government invaded Yemen and prepared to invade Iran?

Democrats are, for the most part, pro union.

Is this a joke?

RvW was overturned under the USian dem government, after decades of promising to codify it, and at a time when all of the relevant judges could have just been replaced.

If you think that Piton is trying to reform the USSR, you are unaware about what the USSR was, and/or about what contemporary Russia is.

“Call them out” on what? That person said that 200€ is 5% of 760€ with a straight face.

You were the one who claimed that most people reliably live with 5% or less of their income going to housing expenses.

The Soviet union literally occupied parts of central and eastern europe?

Weird way to describe liberation from maxi Germany this way.
Ah, wait, you bemoan the fact that those countries were not allowed to plunder Africa and Asia, don’t you?

They crushed uprisings in Hungray and Czechoslovakia

Suppressing NATO-backed nazis is good, actually. Not sure what you disagree with.

That’s some pretty colonial stances.

No, those are not. None of those things were enforcing relations of severely unequal exchange.

Their funding for anti-colonial movements was really just anti-western colonialism

In what way was that colonialism when those actions actually had a decolonising effect?