I thought this was going to be more of polling post.

Anyway I did. I deleted my account and haven’t gone back for anything since then. It’s rough too cause now there’s no connection to the local groups here.

I joined a local instance hoping there would be local people posting but I guess that’s not how lemmy works.

Right? The best plan.

because as far as you were concerned, everyone is in the same tribe as you

I definitely don’t think that way. I’m aware that I am different from other people.

Reposting from my other comment:

Well I had the luxury of dating a psychologist who specializes in diagnoses and her brother is autistic - so she is very aware of autism and how it works and what it looks like in different people.

She confirmed I’m not autistic and thought it was hilarious that anyone would assume that about me. She’s known me for years and she has experience in that field. She knows better than just randoms at a meet up group would.

Well I had the luxury of dating a psychologist who specializes in diagnoses and her brother is autistic - so she is very aware of autism and how it works and what it looks like in different people.

When I told her that random autistic girls from my comm were making this assumption she gave me the biggest eye roll and a laugh. Because duh, I’m not autistic.

Right? Like the person who was insisting he was always bald due to some weird blind hatred. Like the guy use to just be a dumb stand up comedian/actor. As far as I remember he wasn’t outspoken in the 90’s like he is now.

Exactly but I’ve been crucified in conversation for bringing the show up because he was on there.

Eraserhead.

what is ASAB in this context?

god that sucks to hear.

I’m alarmed at the amount of people I met, mostly women, who are like upset when I tell them I’m not autistic. It’s like they want me to be or something. They insisted I needed to get tested to be sure.

Like what is with these people wanting this to be common and wanting to get people join in like its a club? It’s a genetic trait. You either have it or you don’t I thought.

lol even mods don’t follow rules on reddit and there are private subs where people do whatever the hell they want.

and we all know what reddit mods do.

Of course I remember the “meme faith” thing that was happening in 2016 and it seemed like it really worked. All those alt right pepe memes infesting everything and they picked Trump as the focus

Oh I’m talking about waay waaaay before 2016. I’m talking 2008. They were looking for a new hitler.

What Trump did was unprecedented

I can’t agree because there is evidence of Trump talking about running for office since the 90’s. We should have seen this coming but any time it was talked about, it was laughed off and ignored.

I live in a liberal and wealthy area of a red state. I make good money, live comfortably, and have a diverse community of people available to me. All sorts of recreation, social events, etc.

I live in a liberal area of a blue state. I make okay money and live kind of comfortable but not really and I miss out on a lot of things due to racism and having to combat culture wars because of who I am as a person.

So I’m feeling the disintegration. I get the brunt of it dealt to me first hand. People fucking hate me because I am who I am.

That being said -

Economic reforms. Large investments in infrastructure. A real Green New Deal - trillions of dollars spent building all sorts of modern infrastructure would require lots of labor. Build high speed rail all over America. Start programs that give companies incentive to return manufacturing jobs to the US.

I agree with this. I agree with raising minimum wage and universal healthcare - I’m even for universal basic income. I agree with a lot of what you are saying and I think it would help a lot of people.

Seriously, it’s not a coincidence fascism came about right after the Great Depression

I get that too. It’s history and you can’t argue against it.

But I’m telling you about a current enemy and its one I know very well - in my early 20s you could easily have lumped me in with that same group of people. I’m not anymore but I definitely was.

And even when I was growing as a person and slowly removing those ideologies on my own from myself… I still interacted with people who are never going to stop being that way.

I don’t think its all insecurity. I think some of it is just as simple as pure hatred. I’m telling you. They get off it. I don’t know how anyone would change their mind when they totally want someone to go out of their way to try and change their mind. They want someone like you to try and get rid of their insecurity so they can laugh at the fact that you tried.

How do you change someone like that? How do you help someone like that?

The only reason I changed is cause I chose to do that on my own.

Yeah, I wasn’t taking issue. I was providing information.

The main thing I’m trying to say is these people historically were blue

How do you know that? What are you basing that off of?

I mean, I have an example of what you’re talking about but its the only thing I can think of where I’m like, yeah I know for sure that was the case. And only feel comfortable saying that because there is recorded evidence of someone stating that they use to be a democratic, and then switched to vote for Bush who ran as a republican.

And as for the alt right stuff - I only feel comfortable saying what I said about that because I spent several years of my early 20’s being really misguided and I was knee deep in that shit.

Trump talked about running for president since like the 90’s so that was already out there as information. The alt right groups were looking for a “new hitler” as they put it and eventually pushed for Trump. They did this through social engineering. Over the course of several years.

People laugh when I talk about this but it is a real thing that happened.

In your perspective, you’re witnessing the disintegration of America.

It’s been disintegrating for awhile now.

You can’t just chalk this all up to gullibility.

I’m not. Both things are at play here.

If people were having happy stable lives where their needs were being met financially and emotionally, they wouldn’t vote for these proto-fascists

Again. How do you meet the needs of people who are filled with hatred? I’m genuinely asking since you keep bringing this up.

Why do you think I’m arguing with you?

Yeah, you’re talking about the gullible general public who was influenced by the alt right.

Newsradio was a fantastic show. You think it was filled with bad acting? How much of it did you watch?

It’s the people who initially voted for Trump

Yeah… Alt righters.

Remember that fucking jackass, Ben Shapiro that he had on all the time?

I think it was Tony Hitchcliff who’s a stand up who was on Rogans show fucking begging him to not have stupid ass Shapiro on anymore and Rogan kept defending the guy and Tony was just like, dude… that guy is a fucking dork who makes you look bad. Stop having him on.

Honestly one of the funniest interactions I heard on the podcast where his actual friend is begging him to stop this nonsense and he just won’t do it.

You know, I once tried to explain to someone on reddit that Joe Rogan wasn’t always bald and there is evidence of this when he was on Newsradio and he had a full head of hair back then.

Idiot on reddit just kept arguing that he was always bald and didn’t even care that video evidence was being posted because it was more important to hate Rogan than to accept factual evidence of something so incredibly minimal on the scale of things.

Like why would it be important if he was bald or not? And why would hating him be more important than something being a fact?

Anyway, I asked cause I love Newsradio but often can’t talk about it because people will either figure out that Joe Rogan was on there, or they already know and then think I’m a psychotic alt right idiot.

All because I watch a show that existed before that guy was ever doing a podcast.