Very true. The government is full of ways to funnel public money into rich people’s pockets by design. And then they do their best to convince the not-rich that it’s the marginalised in society that are causing pretty much all of our problems, actually

Not soft, not me. It’s best we all suffer so that some can suffer even more than others. Now to go to the pub for the fifth time this week to bury my emotional problems. Spending on mental healthcare? Sounds like “benefits” to me

Don’t talk about spending money early in a preventative manner that benefits society. That’s illegal here. We let things get bad and end up spending way more money in a reactive way that usually brings the worst outcome. And we’re proud of it

The “We value your privacy” line really is the slogan of the tech world for these times. Keep seeing it everywhere so it must be true

Ahh I see fair enough! Yeah you’re right that Corbyn’s opinion isn’t the law of YP but that’s still encouraging. As much as I see issues with YP I don’t see them as an overall bad entity at all. And in my opinion the priority needs to be an antifascist coalition, in both the electoral and community levels. I’m sure there are many (hopefully most) in both parties that feel the same

Are they a very centrist membership, especially since Polanski became leader and the massive influx of new members after that? He won with a huge majority over the centrist candidates and the amount of members has almost trebled since he won. And has he had a particularly centrist political history? He used to be a Lib Dem sure but he left them in 2017. If he’s still pushed for centrist policies in recent years then I’d like to know about it. But either way he clearly isn’t a centrist now. The difference between him and Starmer is that the Greens are far more democratic than Labour and the members can make the party have a left wing agenda, regardless of the leader’s views. Starmer won the leadership on a centre-left platform and then showed he’s actually right wing further down the line. But any left wing Labour members have very little power to influence party policy

And also have Your Party said they’re willing to have electoral agreements with the Greens? From what I’ve seen so far the implication from YP is that they wouldn’t. But I’d be happy to be wrong

Your Party are an explicitly socialist party and want to replace capitalism with socialism. The Greens are a social democratic party (actual social democrats, not the faux ones that the majority of “social democratic” European parties are). That isn’t to say there aren’t socialist members of the Greens, probably most of them are. I’m one of them. There’s just a lot of reasons not to support Your Party even if you are socialist, as I see it

Can she just fade into complete obscurity already? Would’ve thought that would be what she’d want to do given her husband is gunna be a big name in the Epstein files, and possibly also her too

…well this conference has been the final nail in the coffin for me

Wasn’t going to vote for them anyway but I hoped they would get their shit together enough to be part of a left wing coalition. There’s been multiple indicators from the conference and the results of it that it’s just going to continue to go further into chaos and fail to attract people to it

The name choice is at least something I can laugh a bit about though. Don’t understand why “Your Party” was even an option. It would obviously be widely ridiculed if it was chosen. The other choices were so bad too though. Don’t understand how they couldn’t think of any better options than “Our Party”, “For The Many” and “Popular Alliance”

I see your point with this and I agree that something that’s happening in your own country would hit you harder than an equal situation in another. I’m more pointing out the sheer disparity between the two that is the case the vast majority of the time and the reactions around that. Even if atrocities are more common in certain other countries, treating it with basically next to no empathy (or sometimes even thinking it’s right that it’s happening or just a natural thing) and then something very small in comparison happening here is given vast amounts more attention and empathy isn’t something I can see as excusable. Especially given how often European countries have a hand in those atrocities happening. If it’s a case of not understanding the context then again I don’t think the default should then just be to not care about innocents dying. I’m not expecting people to go out and try and stop it or whatever but to do more at least than just shrug it off. Just because it’s the norm to have this attitude doesn’t make it right

Yeah right? Let’s see a map showing all the deaths from bombs that have been dropped in the Middle East and North Africa in the same timeframe. While it’s still a horrible thing to happen of course, it always amazes me how people in my country will act like a few people being killed in an attack is a huge tragedy. But then just treat mass deaths of civilians somewhere not in Europe like it’s nothing

I don’t play them anymore these days, but for me it used to be the Dynasty/Samurai Warriors series. Dunno what it was with younger me but they just hit for some reason

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I agree with everything you say here. I’m well aware it’s long been a thing to scapegoat minorities of course, for centuries and centuries. The media isn’t the primary cause, but it’s the main thing that is driving us towards fascist ideas being legitimised, as I see it. Without them doing that we wouldn’t be in nearly as bad a situation as we are today. We can’t get to sorting out the ills as anyone who genuinely wants to is demonised and delegitimised

I can’t remember exactly where I saw it and when but I remember in the last couple months seeing a poll where how important different issues and topics were to voters from each party were shown. Reform voters were very high on things like healthcare, affordability, nationalisation of industries and so on. Even more so than any other party besides the Greens, I think

Obviously immigration came out top for the Reform voters, but the poll as a whole says what leftists have been saying for so long now. Some will be voting for Reform from just a racist perspective, of course, but most will be doing it because they’ve been tricked into thinking that the reason they can’t have those things that they really want is because of immigration. Especially in all the many poor, struggling areas Reform are doing best in

Our media has cooked so many people’s thinking. And our electoral system is going to force us to have a strong chance of a fascist government when the majority don’t want it

They wouldn’t do this when the better option for them is to make Mamdani’s ambitions for New York as hard as possible to bring to fruition. Even if they only hinder him a bit, any inability at all from Mamdani to do every single thing he wants to do (and things they claim he wants to do) will see relentless coverage in the right wing media (and likely also some from liberal media) in order to paint it as a “failed project” and how “unrealistic socialism is.” That serves them far better than just disappearing the guy

I see your point about how they will try and make Mamdani look as bad as possible in the meeting but he could withstand it far better than Zelenskyy, I reckon. Nothing wrong with Zelenskyy on that front, just it’s obvious Mamdani would do better

Next week: “Shabana Mahmood is the new Labour leader”

Obviously shouldn’t count on this being the actual result. But this is more than a bit worrying

Why do some people keep repeating the thing about the name and acting like they can’t decide? I also think it’s been going very badly and there’s so much to criticise. But they made it clear from the very beginning that they’d allow the members to vote on the name at their first conference, which is happening this month

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