Its not a garbage take. They had the chance before and didnt, why would anyone trust them to do it this time?

Just in case someone wants more context:

This is the “Amazon tower” in Berlin, a huge (for Berlin) office building that will be mainly/exclusively used by Amazon and this sparked some protests.

More infos heres: https://berlinvsamazon.noblogs.org/

Yeah and still we should not push the message that Telegrams encryption is even remotely close to other encrypted messengers. I met more than one person that somehow thought their messages in Telegram are “safer” than they are in WhatsApp (and they never activated the encrypted chat oprion in Telegram)

It took the german goverment years to force Telegram to comply with their requests to get data and shut down specific groups. Also based on your location things that might be legal are not legal in a different location, from a German legal perspective there still lots of things happening in Telegram that are atleast a grey area(piracy, hate speech, porn) or straight up illegal(drugs, terrorist groups propaganda).

I am not in favor of the arrest or any goverment repression btw, I am just adding why goverments in europe might want to do stuff like this.

I dont think Telegram is something that I would call an “encrypted messenger”

Considering how hard it is for goverments to actually get Telegram to shutdown criminal chat groups or get chat logs (of unencrypted ) groups I think its at least more reasonable than the whole idea of banning E2E encryption.

80000+ Core Members. Seems like a big cult.

I judge people on plenty of things that are legal. You probably do it too

Interesting how many different (not so charitable) interpretation of this comic exist in thr comments.

To me this of course a simplification, as its a comic and was postes in !memes

In my opinion this comic shows how nationalism can be used to pit the working class against each other even tho their class interests are pretty similar, no matter which side of the border they are.

100% I also dont want to be landlord by proxy.

Friends and Family?

As a vegan, I also want a good live for all the pigs out there

I reported the troll and moved on, I think my priorities are actually in a good place. I think its annoying that my open questions gets constructed as defending bigotry, but I guess its not easy to assume good faith on the internet.

I called a (maybe not) comrade out for their violent and authoritarian delusions. If that counts as defending someone who made a racist and factually wrong comment, I think I stay away from your crowd. Might get shot and stuff

You are on the list now, get ready to get purged because of one comment in which you questioned the holy revolution /s

You are literally thinking about executing someone because of ONE comment they made and somehow act as if that is going to safe the world. Its just ridiculous.

I am in no way or form against violent revolution, insurrection, riots, antifascist violence, self defense or plain revenge. But you just said that someone deserved to be executed because of one comment. Idk how a world where this is possible is something worth fighting for and I guess in the end, we wont be on the same side after all.

Why is it so easy for you to talk about executing someone?

But did actually anyone actually pirate your music? Like is your music on a torrent indexer or shared on a site specific to music?

I have heard from friends that they got banned for using adblockers on free Spotify.

My account got deactivated after doing that (firefox+ublock). It was really sneaky because my password just stopped working. My account was reactivated by contacting the support and they never told me the reason why my account got deactivated.

You seem to have really high standards around who you trust and in the same moment you call Telegram secure. I feel like you should atleast use the same amount of scepticism for Telegram that you use for Signal.